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seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against me

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Indy
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by Indy »

Thorby Bislam wrote:Not only do you have to sign the official secrets act when you start but you have to sign it when you leave too. I recently left RM and was surprised to find that one of the things I had to do was sign the ofa again.
By signing what am/did I agree NOT to do?
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by fishtank »

Indy wrote:
Thorby Bislam wrote:Not only do you have to sign the official secrets act when you start but you have to sign it when you leave too. I recently left RM and was surprised to find that one of the things I had to do was sign the ofa again.
By signing what am/did I agree NOT to do?
Nothing...everybody in the country is covered by the OSA.
By signing it you are just making it easier to prosecute if you offend.
It's like signing a WTLL brief...you've seen the video now it's your fault.
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Indy
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by Indy »

fishtank wrote:
Indy wrote:
Thorby Bislam wrote:Not only do you have to sign the official secrets act when you start but you have to sign it when you leave too. I recently left RM and was surprised to find that one of the things I had to do was sign the ofa again.
By signing what am/did I agree NOT to do?
Nothing...everybody in the country is covered by the OSA.
By signing it you are just making it easier to prosecute if you offend.
It's like signing a WTLL brief...you've seen the video now it's your fault.
So its like I could be prosecuted for divulging the 'meat' (ha ha ha) content of the sausages sold in the RM canteen?

Seriously thought, what information technically could an OPG be aware of that divulging could lead them to be persecuted under the OSA?
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by krussel »

Indy wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Indy wrote:
Thorby Bislam wrote:Not only do you have to sign the official secrets act when you start but you have to sign it when you leave too. I recently left RM and was surprised to find that one of the things I had to do was sign the ofa again.
By signing what am/did I agree NOT to do?
Nothing...everybody in the country is covered by the OSA.
By signing it you are just making it easier to prosecute if you offend.
It's like signing a WTLL brief...you've seen the video now it's your fault.
So its like I could be prosecuted for divulging the 'meat' (ha ha ha) content of the sausages sold in the RM canteen?

Seriously thought, what information technically could an OPG be aware of that divulging could lead them to be persecuted under the OSA?

How about an MP who subscribes to something rather dodgy :hmmmm
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

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Non-Disclosure Statement – Official Secrets Act and Confidential Information

My attention has been drawn to:

The provisions of the Official Secrets Act 1989 (the “Act”) and that under that Act it is a criminal offence for a Government Contractor (which means any person or body who is employed in the provision of goods or services for the Crown) including any employee of a Government Contractor, to disclose unlawfully any information obtained as a result of such work without authorisation, and fail to safeguard or improperly retain or provide access to documents or articles containing information which it would be an offence under the Act to disclose.

The fact that I must not disclose to any other person, firm or company, or publish or broadcast or use for my own benefit any confidential and/or commercial information relating in any way to the activities, operations or business methods of the Royal Mail Group, or information obtained whilst engaged in Royal Mail Group’s Business except as previously authorised in writing by the Royal Mail Group. Any unauthorised disclosure may amount to a criminal offence.

I am fully aware that serious consequences may follow any breach of these provisions.

I understand that the provisions of the Official Secrets Act 1989 and requirements regarding confidential and/or commercial information may apply to me after my appointment has ceased. I hereby declare to surrender any document made or acquired by me owing to my official position, save such as I have Royal Mail’s written authority to retain.

In signing this contract you confirm that you understand that the provisions of the Official Secrets Act 1989 and requirements regarding confidential and/or commercial information may apply to you
after your appointment has ceased, and you undertake to surrender any document made or acquired by you owing to your official position, save such as you have Royal Mail Group’s written
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by OnAFlyer »

dvbuk55 wrote:Yes I've seen those explanations before - what on earth is she doing from 7.45 until the school opens?

How many times do you need to prepare the same lesson?

How many problem children are there?

As for the nightly meetings and chattering :shock: at that rate should could get a job with the CWU.


Bearing in mind I was being generous with the teaching, there's playtime, lunch, another playtime and all between 9 and 3 and you must have noticed that even after 6 weeks summer holiday - they manage to start the term with a teachers training day :d'oh!
You seem to think you know all about it, I assume you know lots of teachers and they all start at 9 and finish at 3? With lunch and two playtimes? What do you think she's doing at playtime? Watching over 35 kids not sat drinking coffee.

You literally haven't got a clue what teaching entails, and would rather make assumptions based on zero knowledge. After all, all us Posties do is walk in to the office, pick up bag and deliver it isn't it? What else can there be to it? :roll:
dvbuk55
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by dvbuk55 »

OnAFlyer wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Yes I've seen those explanations before - what on earth is she doing from 7.45 until the school opens?

How many times do you need to prepare the same lesson?

How many problem children are there?

As for the nightly meetings and chattering :shock: at that rate should could get a job with the CWU.


Bearing in mind I was being generous with the teaching, there's playtime, lunch, another playtime and all between 9 and 3 and you must have noticed that even after 6 weeks summer holiday - they manage to start the term with a teachers training day :d'oh!
You seem to think you know all about it, I assume you know lots of teachers and they all start at 9 and finish at 3? With lunch and two playtimes? What do you think she's doing at playtime? Watching over 35 kids not sat drinking coffee.

You literally haven't got a clue what teaching entails, and would rather make assumptions based on zero knowledge. After all, all us Posties do is walk in to the office, pick up bag and deliver it isn't it? What else can there be to it? :roll:

Strange that the only voices in agreement with your statements are ex teachers or those married to them :hmmmm Would playtimes not be done on a rota or are all the teachers in the playground at once and teaching assistants where are they in the scheme of things?
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by Pat Ostman »

Come on, all dvbuk55 has said is that the job is thankless at times but the perks do seem to be, well let's say, excellent.

Obviously you are backing up your wife's occupation but you must admit the same yourself.
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Re: seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against

Post by dvbuk55 »

Pat Ostman wrote:Come on, all dvbuk55 has said is that the job is thankless at times but the perks do seem to be, well let's say, excellent.

Obviously you are backing up your wife's occupation but you must admit the same yourself.

JC Pat - they're not thinking of going on strike again surely to god :chuckle, our children will end up half educated oafs...........no wait a minute :chuckle