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OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

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Brainache
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by Brainache »

The argument about not agreeing the O/T before you go out can work another way - if management can refuse you the O/T for not informing them beforhand, then effectively you are delivering/driving OMV/in possesion of mail, while OFF DUTY. So it is up to management to forbid any postie from going over their time unless it is already agreed!
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

You can to a certain extent understand why management have an issue with OPG's working over without having it authorised.
If a manager is sitting with spare bodies doing nothing and you walk in and book 2 hours OT he/she has to justify to his/her boss why the spare bodies didn't cover the extended.
You have basically removed his/her chance to resource and cost the business money needlessly.
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RedBagMan
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by RedBagMan »

fishtank wrote:If a manager is sitting with spare bodies doing nothing
Blimey ! Where does this "scenario" happen ???
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by fishtank »

RedBagMan wrote:
fishtank wrote:If a manager is sitting with spare bodies doing nothing
Blimey ! Where does this "scenario" happen ???
It happens in larger offices quite often.
There has to be inbuilt resource to cover a certain amount of sick absence,if you have a low sick absence week you end up with spares,sometimes they get farmed out to other offices...sometimes not.
Lapsing also produces spare capacity. :neutral:
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hatetheboss
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by hatetheboss »

fishtank wrote:You can to a certain extent understand why management have an issue with OPG's working over without having it authorised.
If a manager is sitting with spare bodies doing nothing and you walk in and book 2 hours OT he/she has to justify to his/her boss why the spare bodies didn't cover the extended.
You have basically removed his/her chance to resource and cost the business money needlessly.
I shall retire to get my tin hat. :chuckle
If this was the case surely the manager would instruct staff before departing the office?
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by DGP1 »

fishtank wrote: It happens in larger offices quite often.
There has to be inbuilt resource to cover a certain amount of sick absence,if you have a low sick absence week you end up with spares,sometimes they get farmed out to other offices...sometimes not.
Lapsing also produces spare capacity. :neutral:
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fishtank
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by fishtank »

DGP1 wrote:
fishtank wrote: It happens in larger offices quite often.
There has to be inbuilt resource to cover a certain amount of sick absence,if you have a low sick absence week you end up with spares,sometimes they get farmed out to other offices...sometimes not.
Lapsing also produces spare capacity. :neutral:
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Your office is an exception to almost every rule in the book DGP. :chuckle
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Lincox
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by Lincox »

Where your scenario falls down Fish is that you have to have managers that can think on their feet. I dont think Royal Mail employee managers that get off their arse, so there,s no chance of that.
losharapidoras
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by losharapidoras »

I'm in the EXACTLY same situation. My office still owes me hours from the week starting on 06/05/11.

Spoke to my manager countless of times and was told that it will be paid. I was NEVER paid anything until this week, when those lazy fcukers managed to put me "a few hours" overtime, but they STILL owe me 7 hours.

Brought back some post today and was told I might be transferred to another office? Are those pr1cks allowed to do that? At the end of the day, I'm not doing anything wrong, because if I'm not getting paid my overtime, why would I go over my hours, when I still have post left?

So what do I do?

Complete the Stage 2 grievance, give section 1 to my line manager and send section 2 to EP Operations Team?
Mightyaj
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Re: OVERTIME NOT PAID AFTER INFORMING FOR 4 WEEKS

Post by Mightyaj »

That is shocking behaviour but its not really surprising as its rife in royal mail. Take them on for bullying and harrasment!