World Socialist Web Site.

[NEWS]

It's long,but a good read.

British SWP covers for sell-out of postal workers strike.

http://www.wsws.org:80/articles/2007/au ... -a21.shtml

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Trots falling out with each other? Well I never!

[catch]

intersting tidbit on Hayes though:

[quote]
Recently Hayes cemented his rightward evolution by joining the Compass group—an organisation that played a central role in fashioning New Labour and ensured an orderly transition from Blair to Brown. He addressed a Compass meeting in the House of Commons at the height of the postal strikes and publicly embraced the market economy with the words, “We are not spectators of the market, we are participants, and we want the market to serve the consumer not vice versaâ€

[genesis]

Seems like the chap who wrote the world wide socialist website article wants a revolution .
In my long POSTAL experience ,endurance 20 yrs+ most people are not at all like that .

Sounds a bit ivory towerish, bet he,s never done a days labour (work) in his life.

[BELIAL]

Seems like the chap who wrote the world wide socialist website article wants a revolution .
In my long POSTAL experience ,endurance 20 yrs+ most people are not at all like that .

Sounds a bit ivory towerish, bet he,s never done a days labour (work) in his life.

Someone once said we are only two lunches away from it. True imo.

[ROCKY]

BIT MORE THAN TWO LUNCHES TO BE HONEST AS WE HAVE NO REAL LEADERS ANYMORE BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN

[BELIAL]

Ok breakfast and dinner too then leaders would be irrellevant

[IWW Fellow Worker]

I know one thing: There are more people in my office with revolutionary tendencies than there were when I started in 1980. As someone who would like to see the present order trampled underfoot, I can only thank Leighton and Crozier and all the so-called managers we've had in the last ten years or so.

"We have always lived in slums and holes in the wall. We will know how to accommodate ourselves for a time. For, you must not forget, we can also build. It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth; there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts. That world is growing this minute."

Buenaventura Durruti

[johnston65]

One of the finest speeches i've heard,up there with John Mcleans speech from the dock...

[BELIAL]

Yipeee kii yayy

[BELIAL]

sorry couldnt resist

[ROCKY]

i mean leaders on a national scale,ive seen no one i would follow to the end of the street never mind the end of the world,plenty of people spouting off in their own comfort zone changes nothing,at least the farmers at the petrol blockades had there own union and a unwitting but competant leader to follow,any force of change in this country would get stuck at the first crossroads as everyone argued which road to take

[IWW Fellow Worker]

i mean leaders on a national scale,ive seen no one i would follow to the end of the street never mind the end of the world,plenty of people spouting off in their own comfort zone changes nothing,at least the farmers at the petrol blockades had there own union and a unwitting but competant leader to follow,any force of change in this country would get stuck at the first crossroads as everyone argued which road to take

Which is why vanguard parties aren't the answer.