Seems like Kaizen ;Jidoka and pokayoke Are not all they are cracked up to beBeetlejuice wrote:TBH, All I hear about is Pillars and Kaizens ???? WCM apparently, is here to stay.
just leave me out!
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World Class Mail - you couldn't make it up !!!
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BELIAL
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Re: World Class Mail - you couldn't make it up !!!
Bye
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wowiezowie
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Re: World Class Mail - you couldn't make it up !!!
Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'
What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
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hubbahubba
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All the people i speak to who are doing WCM tell me the only reason they do it,is because dockets scarce this time of year,and its easy overtime...wowiezowie wrote:Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
same as it ever was...
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Swinder
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That is what happens when managers hand pick these people. Same thing happened at my place (might even be the same place), they learned there lesson for a short while but have since reverted back to the easy jobs for lazy friends gimmick.wowiezowie wrote:Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
I used to defend the world class scheme, at least the aspects I had been involved with, but I found a flaw in their figures which meant targets were also flawed. I made someone aware of it and the answer was something a long the lines of fixing it would mean targets would be harder to achieve.
I guess it was far too difficult to comprehend that if you fix the problem you would also have to revise the figures accordingly....
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wowiezowie
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Re: World Class Mail - you couldn't make it up !!!
If you're talking about the NWMMC then yes. The whole concept of WCM seems to be to over complicate what is basically common sense, and the excessive use of jargon, aka kaizens, gemba, etc is just laughable. I mean Pillars of Excellence sounds like something straight out of the mouth of David Brent.Swinder wrote:That is what happens when managers hand pick these people. Same thing happened at my place (might even be the same place), they learned there lesson for a short while but have since reverted back to the easy jobs for lazy friends gimmick.wowiezowie wrote:Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
I used to defend the world class scheme, at least the aspects I had been involved with, but I found a flaw in their figures which meant targets were also flawed. I made someone aware of it and the answer was something a long the lines of fixing it would mean targets would be harder to achieve.
I guess it was far too difficult to comprehend that if you fix the problem you would also have to revise the figures accordingly....
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Swinder
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Aye, same MC :Dwowiezowie wrote:If you're talking about the NWMMC then yes. The whole concept of WCM seems to be to over complicate what is basically common sense, and the excessive use of jargon, aka kaizens, gemba, etc is just laughable. I mean Pillars of Excellence sounds like something straight out of the mouth of David Brent.Swinder wrote:That is what happens when managers hand pick these people. Same thing happened at my place (might even be the same place), they learned there lesson for a short while but have since reverted back to the easy jobs for lazy friends gimmick.wowiezowie wrote:Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
I used to defend the world class scheme, at least the aspects I had been involved with, but I found a flaw in their figures which meant targets were also flawed. I made someone aware of it and the answer was something a long the lines of fixing it would mean targets would be harder to achieve.
I guess it was far too difficult to comprehend that if you fix the problem you would also have to revise the figures accordingly....
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wearewolves
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Re: World Class Mail - you couldn't make it up !!!
you can add me...Swinder wrote:Aye, same MC :Dwowiezowie wrote:If you're talking about the NWMMC then yes. The whole concept of WCM seems to be to over complicate what is basically common sense, and the excessive use of jargon, aka kaizens, gemba, etc is just laughable. I mean Pillars of Excellence sounds like something straight out of the mouth of David Brent.Swinder wrote:That is what happens when managers hand pick these people. Same thing happened at my place (might even be the same place), they learned there lesson for a short while but have since reverted back to the easy jobs for lazy friends gimmick.wowiezowie wrote:Our mail centre paid the Professor £50,000 to visit earlier this year and we failed on nearly every 'pillar'What a complete waste of time, effort and money. Funny how all the people involved in WCM are the ones that did f**k all on the shop floor.
I used to defend the world class scheme, at least the aspects I had been involved with, but I found a flaw in their figures which meant targets were also flawed. I made someone aware of it and the answer was something a long the lines of fixing it would mean targets would be harder to achieve.
I guess it was far too difficult to comprehend that if you fix the problem you would also have to revise the figures accordingly....