managers doing postmans work

[sirrel1862]

Here at Nottingham 90% managers doing postmans work under the nose of our union. When challenged nothing even saying weve done a deal with the union. Our many more weak and scared union staff are they or his it only at nottingham that they are weak, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[worktotime]

Here at Nottingham 90% managers doing postmans work under the nose of our union. When challenged nothing even saying weve done a deal with the union. Our many more weak and scared union staff are they or his it only at nottingham that they are weak, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

a manager working you want to video it and send it to youve been framed and get £250 and no we have a rep as well who wont say boo to the doms bullying and harasment when we mention cutting off with p&l in our office , dont see him half the time , the union has gone.

[Judgee]

Here at Nottingham 90% managers doing postmans work under the nose of our union. When challenged nothing even saying weve done a deal with the union. Our many more weak and scared union staff are they or his it only at nottingham that they are weak, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Managers working????????????????? Don't believe it, I want proof!

[gideon 60]

watched 3 managers tip+tray, and theres a complete ban on pressure o/t in my mail centre. afraid managers got the upper hand at moment and they know it.

[Stampy]

If our LSM stops and either me or my colleague are NOT at the Feeding end (normally we are breaking the boxes down on it - since we've been reduced to 2 per LSM now), 9 times out of 10, one of the manager's will leap on the machine and start feeding it...

Again, this has been OK'd by the Union....

[beeswax]

start a mass sickness programme and let them work for a while

[sirrel1862]

his it possible to join another union to represent us. nottm union are scared of the management

[TrueBlueTerrier]

his it possible to join another union to represent us. nottm union are scared of the management

Have we traveled back to the 80s again and are we miners.

AFAIK you can join any Union that will accept you based on their rules, however RM do not have to recognise them until a certain threshold is passed and a democratic vote is taken unless of course it gets recognised as fast as the UDM did.

You could be a dual card holder and join the IWW, but whilst their motives are laudable the commitment required to become a member is a lot higher than the CWUs, and would they have the knolwedge and experience to help in day to day matters.

Also if you join another union, without RM recognition, they can do nothing at all to help you and your colleagues persuade RM to follow agreements. The only way you can get rid of poor reps is to get someone to stand against them, but as evidenced by the BT2010 vote, apathy seems to rule and whilst many complain, very few are willing to step forward. The Union is only as strong as its members and if they are unwilling to to make changes then nothing will change.

[drevil1969uk]

@ trueblueterrier
at my office someone did stand against reps doing jack and he was squeezed out as he stood up for workers rights and wasent being a yes man.

On the note of managers working machines.
1 I always see it in fact shocked when i dont, also seen them run LSMs on there own (are you supposed to have two to a machine?)
2 other night there were four managers running a machine inclufding shift manager, anything done? yeah alright

[SpacePhoenix]

RM may as well make all managers into "Team Leaders", it would save them a load of money

[drevil1969uk]

i think we have team leaders at my place. From what i can gather they stop the line managers from working by interfering. step into an area, cock it up then move to another area and same again.

Still not sure hpw they can get team leaders to work

[barclay]

Just a note to say will managers be doing postman's work now they have been double wammied,NO SHARES and NO BONUS, Really gutted for them!!!!!!
HA HA HA!!!!!

[geoffum]

Pushing specials to the locker the other week saw 8 managers including mail centre manager on floor sorting and culling, happens all the time on and off

[cardiff-nights]

happens here aswell, not enough staff to do the work so its common place to see acting managers running segs, pushing mail from a-b,0r operating an imp through breaktimes.. yet i hear another 24 have got to go across 3 shifts ..i was told that they are allowed to help only if there is a chance of a failure, which covers them because there is always a chance of a failure from where i am looking, the union seem to protest but they are never taken any notice of.

[wayoutman]

Pushing specials to the locker the other week saw 8 managers including mail centre manager on floor sorting and culling, happens all the time on and off