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The Revision/D2D

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Re: The Revision/D2D

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westham67 wrote:If its a delivery supplement why do staff who do not deliver get paid it?
Because its a functional based supplement not an activity based one. All the other functions within RML get them as well, different ones and different values but they should all get them.
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Are we only tied to a 3 year deal so at the end everything is up for negotiation? The cwu split up 50 million whats going to happen if royal mail make 4 times that do you realy think they will give it up ?
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shepherdess wrote:Are we only tied to a 3 year deal so at the end everything is up for negotiation? The cwu split up 50 million whats going to happen if royal mail make 4 times that do you realy think they will give it up ?
The idea is that the £50M or the delivery supplement will go onto basic pay,well that's the idea anyway.
Dave Ward has clearly said the payment is for ever and will not be taken away.
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Re: The Revision/D2D

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So they wont take it away but if the d2d market goes through the roof we get nothing. I cant understand why they didnt just remove the cap and keep the payment the same everyone happy more for us more for them. But now more profit for them and nothing for us fair!!
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they also said ESA was forever

but surprise it wasn't it got swallowed up in our supa dupa new pay deal
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shepherdess wrote:So they wont take it away but if the d2d market goes through the roof we get nothing. I cant understand why they didnt just remove the cap and keep the payment the same everyone happy more for us more for them. But now more profit for them and nothing for us fair!!
The reason being,and please note it is from the CWU ,was because eventually they would all go in one sleeve so you would only get paid for 1.
There is also this,now mind that hot iron...
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=25126" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Revision/D2D

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feduppostie wrote:they also said ESA was forever

but surprise it wasn't it got swallowed up in our supa dupa new pay deal
I know. :nervous
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the guys all in the office ,processing ,drivers loads of them voted the agreement in cause theyde get a measly £20 , they do nothing to get it every week ,while weve gotta do them regardlless of how many. NO FOLDERS FOR HOUSEHOLDS X 6 OR MORE = NO D T DS DONE
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feduppostie wrote:they also said ESA was forever
but surprise it wasn't it got swallowed up in our supa dupa new pay deal

Urban myth that.

2007 deal froze ESA for exisiting staff so new entrants did not get it. The 2007 deal said it would cease with pay restructuing but if that did not take place grandfather rights would be retained. 2010 deal had the afore mentioned pay restructuring it was voted in so ESA went. We the membership voted ESA out of existence.
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Big Daz wrote:
feduppostie wrote:they also said ESA was forever
but surprise it wasn't it got swallowed up in our supa dupa new pay deal

Urban myth that.
No it wasn't Daz...that was the final position after Royal Mail threatened to pull the lot with the Network 2007 changes to start times.
The original position was,,,,,
A message from Billy Hayes, General Secretary and Dave Ward, Deputy General Secretary (Postal) from 2007.
"Early shift allowance in delivery will be permanently retained".
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Interesting that

A U turn was agreed and put out to vote on then.
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Biker Mouse wrote:
westham67 wrote:If its a delivery supplement why do staff who do not deliver get paid it?
Coz some people voted for it!
Obviously everyone in the mail centres did because they get money for doing nothing. Those of us that have to deliver the crap got screwed over again.
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MisterPostie wrote:
Biker Mouse wrote:
westham67 wrote:If its a delivery supplement why do staff who do not deliver get paid it?
Coz some people voted for it!
Obviously everyone in the mail centres did because they get money for doing nothing. Those of us that have to deliver the crap got screwed over again.
MC dudes DO NOT get the supplement.
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Re: The Revision/D2D

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MisterPostie wrote:
Biker Mouse wrote:
westham67 wrote:If its a delivery supplement why do staff who do not deliver get paid it?
Coz some people voted for it!
Obviously everyone in the mail centres did because they get money for doing nothing. Those of us that have to deliver the crap got screwed over again.
I would like to know where this particular urban myth started because as Postman and others repeatedly say - MCs don't get a delivery supplement as they don't work in the right FUNCTION. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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Re: The Revision/D2D

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Biker Mouse wrote:
Bongos wrote:New Delivery 748 calls 11mins to prep (6 dtod) :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

All for just over £20 :mad :mad :mad :mad

I wonder how much profit Royal Mail are making just on this walk (Laughing all the way to the bank more big profits but they won't admit it) :confused :confused :confused :confused

All for £nil...........delivery supplement is nothing to do with D2Ds :cuppa
OUR MANAGERS TELLS US EVERY WEEK WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A JOB.WE ARE IN THE KT POST CODE AREA,WE ARE TOLD MAIL DOWN,WHAT RUBBISH, WE ARE GOING OUT WITH MORE BAGS EVERY DAY,ROYAL MAIL SAY THERE ARE 140-160 LETTERS IN THE MECH TRAYS,RUBBISH WE HAVE COUNTED THEM OUT ALL WEEK GUESS WHAT,290-310 ALL WEEK,THE ONLY WAY TO SAFEGUARD JOBS,IS TO COME IN ON TIME,PUT YOUR RIP OFF DOOR TO DOORS IN DURING IN TIME,LIKE ROYAL MAIL TELL YOU TO,DON'T PUT THEM IN ON YOUR TIME.TAKE MEAL BREAKS,AND WHEN OUT THERE DO THE JOB AS SET OUT BY ROYAL MAIL,STOP THE PEOPLE WHO RUSH AROUND TO FINISH BEFORE TIME,NO USING YOUR OWN CARS,BRING BACK WHAT YOU DON'T DELIVER,DON'T DO RIP OFF OVERTIME TO CLEAR IT.WHEN ALL THE MAIL YOU BRING BACK STARTS TO PILE UP ON YOUR FITTING,DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT,BECAUSE YOU WILL ONLY WORK TO YOUR TIME,AND BRING BACK SOME MORE THE NEXT DAY.THIS IS THINGS THAT THE CWU SHOULD BE TELLING ALL THEIR MEMBERS TO DO.WHERE ARE THEY(CWU)THEY HAVE GONE ALL QUIET AFTER LAST PAY DEAL,THANKS UNION FOR GETTING US SUCH A GOOD PAY DEAL, HA HA ,6-8 DOOR TO DOORS FROM THE FIRST WEEK AFTER DEAL,I AM £30-£35 DOWN EVERY WEEK,THE LITTLE BIT EXTRA IN PAY DOES NOT MAKE UP FOR THIS.
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