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Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
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POSTMAN
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
You can deliver it anyway you want......................in a car,but let's not go there with the wanky car user making the frame that way.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
Err, yes you can, because that is where the input comes in.krussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:you can set the frame out anyway you like as long as it is logical
Err nope you cant![]()
It has to follow Georoute / Pegusus / Aplus as the mech will be sequenced in that order
Edit. Sorry essex this is going off your thread.
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krussel
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
dvbuk55 wrote:Err, yes you can, because that is where the input comes in.krussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:you can set the frame out anyway you like as long as it is logical
Err nope you cant![]()
It has to follow Georoute / Pegusus / Aplus as the mech will be sequenced in that order
Edit. Sorry essex this is going off your thread.
Oh sorry i think i see where your coming from
However if you sign on to a new duty you cant rip the frame around to suit yourself.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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dvbuk55
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
Yes and No, once the frame is up and running then that is what the WSM will be programmed to..............what would be the point of having sequenced mail if the frame was changed around to suit each postie who does the cover. Therefore the input is important at the planning stagekrussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:Err, yes you can, because that is where the input comes in.krussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:you can set the frame out anyway you like as long as it is logical
Err nope you cant![]()
Oh sorry i think i see where your coming fromDo you mean at the pegasus planning stage where you can sit at the computer with the planner ?
However if you sign on to a new duty you cant rip the frame around to suit yourself.
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
dvbuk55 wrote:Yes and No, once the frame is up and running then that is what the WSM will be programmed to..............what would be the point of having sequenced mail if the frame was changed around to suit each postie who does the cover. Therefore the input is important at the planning stagekrussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:Err, yes you can, because that is where the input comes in.krussel wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:you can set the frame out anyway you like as long as it is logical
Err nope you cant![]()
Oh sorry i think i see where your coming fromDo you mean at the pegasus planning stage where you can sit at the computer with the planner ?
However if you sign on to a new duty you cant rip the frame around to suit yourself.
Sounds about right to me
I ve just signed for a new duty to start when the revision comes in and really do not like the frame order as i intend to use a trolley instead of a bike. I was told it cant be altered till the next (park and loop) revision
Anyway ive drifted well off thread
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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calpsy
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
It doesnt matter if we are talking about now or later ............ You take the mail out the frame the way YOU want to do it . EASY ! !
Sequenced or whatever ....... the mail is in the frame . YOU decide how you are gonna do it ...... by the frame or your own way .
Sequenced or whatever ....... the mail is in the frame . YOU decide how you are gonna do it ...... by the frame or your own way .
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dvbuk55
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
Well you suit yourself and maybe your partner on a park and loop will suit himself. The loops are set out in logical sequence but of course you'd know best.calpsy wrote:It doesnt matter if we are talking about now or later ............ You take the mail out the frame the way YOU want to do it . EASY ! !
Sequenced or whatever ....... the mail is in the frame . YOU decide how you are gonna do it ...... by the frame or your own way .
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calpsy
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
We dont have loops so yes I do know best .... unless you know better . Nah youve already shown you dont . Move along please .
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dvbuk55
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You mean you don't have loops YET but it's coming to an office near you................ and it's yours........so get used to doing the frame as it's laid out then you won't have a problem when you're prepping two deliveries for two people in loopscalpsy wrote:We dont have loops so yes I do know best .... unless you know better . Nah youve already shown you dont . Move along please .
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
If we're discussing Frames etc. and no-one wants to set a new thread: Never used to be a problem when as a Reserve if you didn't like the way the Regular delivered it you just had your own "Bundling" list. You used this to "Pull Out" the mail & set up all the walks you covered into a sequence YOU were happy with.
Nowadays however a lot of Reserves aren't even getting the opportunity to "Bundle Up" and merely pick up ready prepped bags. These bags are often not even "Prepped" by the same guys, or anyone that's even delivered the duty, even by the DIM
Result: If the frame is not logical and do-able it's the Reserve stood out on the street in the crappy weather trying to re-arrange bundles and re-organise "On the Hoof"
I for one would like to see frames checked regularly to make sure idle buggers are updating them with new builds and replacing illegible labels that have had Tea split on them etc. Sorry won't happen means work for the DIM.
Nowadays however a lot of Reserves aren't even getting the opportunity to "Bundle Up" and merely pick up ready prepped bags. These bags are often not even "Prepped" by the same guys, or anyone that's even delivered the duty, even by the DIM
Result: If the frame is not logical and do-able it's the Reserve stood out on the street in the crappy weather trying to re-arrange bundles and re-organise "On the Hoof"
I for one would like to see frames checked regularly to make sure idle buggers are updating them with new builds and replacing illegible labels that have had Tea split on them etc. Sorry won't happen means work for the DIM.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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dvbuk55
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
If the frame is not logical, then the revision has failed. The whole object of the exercise is that WSMs will produce walk sequenced mail to a GIVEN sequence as per the frame and in the case of park and loop, which WILL be the predominant delivery method in the future, they will be completed to that sequence in pairs.
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calpsy
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
Oh dear ....... The pennies FINALLY dropped . And theres you thinking it was all working finedvbuk55 wrote:If the frame is not logical, then the revision has failed. The whole object of the exercise is that WSMs will produce walk sequenced mail to a GIVEN sequence as per the frame and in the case of park and loop, which WILL be the predominant delivery method in the future, they will be completed to that sequence in pairs.
Last time of saying .......... you dont like the way it is you take it out to sort yourself .
I beg you to now move along and stop making it worse for you .
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dvbuk55
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
The penny dropped on your second post TBH.calpsy wrote:Oh dear ....... The pennies FINALLY dropped . And theres you thinking it was all working finedvbuk55 wrote:If the frame is not logical, then the revision has failed. The whole object of the exercise is that WSMs will produce walk sequenced mail to a GIVEN sequence as per the frame and in the case of park and loop, which WILL be the predominant delivery method in the future, they will be completed to that sequence in pairs..
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Last time of saying .......... you dont like the way it is you take it out to sort yourself .
I beg you to now move along and stop making it worse for you .
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
What about if someone's bagging up for you just like Dorset mentions?calpsy wrote:Oh dear ....... The pennies FINALLY dropped . And theres you thinking it was all working finedvbuk55 wrote:If the frame is not logical, then the revision has failed. The whole object of the exercise is that WSMs will produce walk sequenced mail to a GIVEN sequence as per the frame and in the case of park and loop, which WILL be the predominant delivery method in the future, they will be completed to that sequence in pairs..
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Last time of saying .......... you dont like the way it is you take it out to sort yourself .
I beg you to now move along and stop making it worse for you .
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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fishtank
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Re: Right or Wrong customer complaint against postie
If it's your walk and you want the way a frame is set out changed...then you get it changed...officially.
You don't stand there pulling bits out here,there and everywhere like a feckin idiot.
If it's not your walk,leave it alone,it's probably like that for a reason and you'll likely just f**k things up.
You don't stand there pulling bits out here,there and everywhere like a feckin idiot.
If it's not your walk,leave it alone,it's probably like that for a reason and you'll likely just f**k things up.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share