Yeah but...... Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?....and why aren't they watching.POSTMAN wrote: Your rep and area rep are fick then!
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New Clawback Scam ?
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good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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POSTMAN
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
Pick,YOU need to flag it up to HQ to tell them the situation.
Fish(i had to fecking google that) If the likes of Pick does not flag it up then how are HQ to know a bunch of c***s are in the hot seat at branches.
Fish(i had to fecking google that) If the likes of Pick does not flag it up then how are HQ to know a bunch of c***s are in the hot seat at branches.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
No need for me, my rep has already informed me if I raise a grievance the union would probably not back me.
Should be interesting as one was raised that same day.
Should be interesting as one was raised that same day.
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
Tut tut postman don't tell me you didn't take latin at that posh London school...............no wonder that Royal Mail is flounderingPOSTMAN wrote:Pick,YOU need to flag it up to HQ to tell them the situation.
Fish(i had to fecking google that) If the likes of Pick does not flag it up then how are HQ to know a bunch of c***s are in the hot seat at branches.
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fishtank
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
C'mon POSTMAN this has been flagged more times than Ayrton Senna.POSTMAN wrote:Pick,YOU need to flag it up to HQ to tell them the situation.
Fish(i had to fecking google that) If the likes of Pick does not flag it up then how are HQ to know a bunch of c***s are in the hot seat at branches.
If HQ aren't interested enough to email their Area Reps with the correct procedure...what's the feckin point in Pick flagging it anywhere..
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fishtank has it nailed.
Last time I contacted this holy shrine, it took four emails and three weeks to even get a reply.
Last time I contacted this holy shrine, it took four emails and three weeks to even get a reply.
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POSTMAN
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
Fish,the clawback situation has been flagged no doubt but the situation of ADR'S going against a LTB?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Pat Ostman
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
CWU have handled this as they handle everything, with incompetence.
Why wasn't a NEW LTB issued clarifying this completely and putting a full stop behind it? What do I show my managers? An email pointing to a LRB nearly a year old and in some cases two years?
Why wasn't a NEW LTB issued clarifying this completely and putting a full stop behind it? What do I show my managers? An email pointing to a LRB nearly a year old and in some cases two years?
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
Well i'm no senior union official PM but the first thing any reasonably intelligent person would do when clawback reared it's ugly head...again,would be make sure your guys on the ground knew the full SP.POSTMAN wrote:Fish,the clawback situation has been flagged no doubt but the situation of ADR'S going against a LTB?
So....either HQ didn't in which case they don't really give a s**t.
Or some Area Reps ignore HQ's advice in which case you wonder what some Divisional Reps do for a living.
As i said...Who's watching the watchers?
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
Precisely my point Pat. Things have changed since last year and since the 2010 Agreement. My belief is that it is highly likely that the CWU are being subsidised in some way by the Royal Mail due to the fall off of numbers following this s..t agreement and they do not want to rock the boat. An absolute disgrace if this is the case. If they have any integrity left at all and are taking note of this forum either through Dingo or any other persons who may be part of or associated with the NEC they will take immediate steps to correct this ridiculous situation.
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POSTMAN
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
I've searched the CWU site again,i've searched on here and there doesn't 'seem' to be one,i found an email from him to one of our members though...Dingo wrote:Bob Gibson sent out on the 3rd of December in Line with previous years and LTBs issued we have not agreed to any clawback arrangements.
So where the feck is this elusive LTB?silverback wrote:Just had an email from Bob Gibson...
In line with previous years and LTB’s issued we have not agreed to any clawback arrangements.
Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor
Outdoor Postal Dept
CWU HQ
150 The Broadway
Wimbledon
London SW19 1RX
Tel: 0208 971 7276
Fax: 0208 254 8577
CWU Website: http://www.cwu.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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london sub
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
...and if this is the case that cwu are getting help from RM due to falling members then the cwu should face cuts like we all did. i.e Early morning allowance GONE, d2d per item GONE, and some other allowances along the way.Lincox wrote:Precisely my point Pat. Things have changed since last year and since the 2010 Agreement. My belief is that it is highly likely that the CWU are being subsidised in some way by the Royal Mail due to the fall off of numbers following this s..t agreement and they do not want to rock the boat. An absolute disgrace if this is the case. If they have any integrity left at all and are taking note of this forum either through Dingo or any other persons who may be part of or associated with the NEC they will take immediate steps to correct this ridiculous situation.
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fishtank
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Re: New Clawback Scam ?
I only got these LTB's dated 3rd December...
No. 1076/10 Christmas Safety Warning From NHS - What Can Go Wrong At Christmas:
No. 1080/2010 Tray Dollies - Mailsort 70 and Access 70 Products
The only one that mentions the weather was No. 1088/10 RE: Royal Mail - Severe Weather Decision Tool: on the 7th December which doesn't even mention clawback....although you would think it might....
No. 1076/10 Christmas Safety Warning From NHS - What Can Go Wrong At Christmas:
No. 1080/2010 Tray Dollies - Mailsort 70 and Access 70 Products
The only one that mentions the weather was No. 1088/10 RE: Royal Mail - Severe Weather Decision Tool: on the 7th December which doesn't even mention clawback....although you would think it might....
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POSTMAN
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Same here,i've even looked in my deleted items folder.fishtank wrote:I only got these LTB's dated 3rd December...
No. 1076/10 Christmas Safety Warning From NHS - What Can Go Wrong At Christmas:
No. 1080/2010 Tray Dollies - Mailsort 70 and Access 70 Products
The only one that mentions the weather was No. 1088/10 RE: Royal Mail - Severe Weather Decision Tool: on the 7th December which doesn't even mention clawback....although you would think it might....
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.