So what went wrong?

[BELIAL]

According to our DOM, park and loop is based on summer mail volumes, and it is'nt expected to work at this time of year!!!
Great eh?????

Its called " Flexing Up "

Well the "up" bit of the phrase works for me but i'd be sorely tempted to change the first word

[Lincox]

I bet it begins with the same letter

[Danelectro]

By the way I have criticised to their faces both Royal Mail and the CWU at national level for this lack of information.

So what was their response? and more specifically The CWU,how long can we accept the tail wagging the dog? they are
running out of excuses and we are running out of time.

Not so long ago the mention of implementing revisions at xmas would have been shouted down and ridiculed by Dave
Ward,so why dosnt he and the rest stop backtracking and start leading their members out of this mess.

[dvbuk55]

By the way I have criticised to their faces both Royal Mail and the CWU at national level for this lack of information.

So what was their response? and more specifically The CWU,how long can we accept the tail wagging the dog? they are
running out of excuses and we are running out of time.

Not so long ago the mention of implementing revisions at xmas would have been shouted down and ridiculed by Dave
Ward,so why dosnt he and the rest stop backtracking and start leading their members out of this mess.

They cannot lead them out of the mess because they lead them into it with all the pageantry they could muster, drums and whistles, deal of the century, despite the misgivings of many on here and the deterioration of pay and terms and conditions.....................the great failing was in the absence of a "Plan B" the CWU was quite happy to go along with whatever Royal Mail wanted.

More than a year down the line there is still chattering going on and deals being done and the agreement failing and bullying still going on soooooooooooo - have we moved forwards, backwards or stayed the same?

[OnAFlyer]

Park and Loop is a good idea in theory, the only trouble is they are making the duties too long and are ballsing it up, the managers are useless they have no idea

I think even with walks that shouldn't be too long, they are seriously underestimating the amount of packets/recordeds/specials etc, as well as the fact that splitting walks into lots of bags takes more time anyway.

Add that onto the much shorter prep times you get, as well as regular late trips from the MC delaying that prep (always has been and always will be an issue) and you get people out until it goes dark (the stupid ones anyway)

[guvenor]

so how do we flex down if were busy ie at xmas
answers on postcard please

[Danelectro]

More than a year down the line there is still chattering going on and deals being done and the agreement failing and bullying still going on soooooooooooo - have we moved forwards, backwards or stayed the same?

backwards,had the dom scoring out several overtime claims again last week and 'traffic figures say you can complete your delivery and a round of golf in your duty time etc' is back on the agenda and thats at the same time as saying take small
steps on the street cos we are at level bloody 3

Aye i did hear that in the bar at TUC conference Ward kept reminding reps it was the only deal on the table and
if he had to get back on the podium and tell us all again he would.

So no, not expecting them to lead us out of the mess,but thats exactly what they should be doing and thats exactly what
they are paid a kings ransom to do.

I do wonder what it takes to get some senior reps in this union angry ,unless im missing something most of them are in the same boat as us and if they think otherwise they really do need a shake.

[music4essex]

or example TBT in an early thread listed a number of revisons which he believed were failing and listed Rayleigh but I have been told that is not the case by people on the ground, so without either Royal Mail and CWU reviewing the offices which have thuse far gone in then how does anyone know if they are failing ? ;

I work just up the road from Rayleigh and I know for a fact it is not working as our managers have been over there to do walks.

Essex mum

[POSTMAN]

or example TBT in an early thread listed a number of revisons which he believed were failing and listed Rayleigh but I have been told that is not the case by people on the ground, so without either Royal Mail and CWU reviewing the offices which have thuse far gone in then how does anyone know if they are failing ? ;

I work just up the road from Rayleigh and I know for a fact it is not working as our managers have been over there to do walks.

Essex mum

Ooops Where you getting your info from Dingo?

[Big Daz]

POSTMAN

I very much imagine that the powers that be see failing and teething troubles to be addressed under the PiR process as two different things.

Failing is what teething troubles turn into if no action is taken under PiR.

[dvbuk55]

POSTMAN

I very much imagine that the powers that be see failing and teething troubles to be addressed under the PiR process as two different things.

Failing is what teething troubles turn into if no action is taken under PiR.

Teething troubles............. seems to be a favourite expression by the CWU and RM at the moment........but to those involved in real revisions, delivery methods in particular, these aren't teething troubles and there are no easy solutions..........we haven't been paid for ours and won't be until the revision is signed off. It won't be signed off until the rep is satisfied that remedial steps are taken to rectify the "teething troubles".

The "teething troubles" are serious enough for our local MP to become involved and our office has been the subject of no less than 3 newspaper articlese since the revision began. So I would suggest that these are serious problems not "tt".

[Big Daz]

"real revisions"

[Stormproof]

[youwot!!!!!]

According to our DOM, park and loop is based on summer mail volumes, and it is'nt expected to work at this time of year!!!
Great eh?????

Its called " Flexing Up "

is that a spelling mistake?

[dvbuk55]

"real revisions"

No BD yours doesn't count - are you any better? Is your sub dealing with the revision whilst you are hors de combat.