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rumour mill, its all cwu fault

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Behind the bus shelter doesn't count as "in public" then?
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clashcityrocker wrote:Behind the bus shelter doesn't count as "in public" then?
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dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
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worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
Excuse me I have not agreed to this , it was reported at a meeting last week from the North East and it would be accepted if you were on a 20 hour contract and you wanted 40 hours .
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worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
Excuse me I have not agreed to this , it was reported at a meeting last week from the North East and it would be accepted if you were on a 20 hour contract and you wanted 40 hours .
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worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
Are you from the north east though?
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dingo wrote:
worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
Excuse me I have not agreed to this , it was reported at a meeting last week from the North East and it would be accepted if you were on a 20 hour contract and you wanted 40 hours .
i did not say you personaly agreed to this , but the union rep whos doing ours seems to think its fine, next week 1 postie,1manager,1cwu rep are going out to trial these so called easy rounds and its all due to start 01/ nov they wish.
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POSTMAN wrote:
worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:The North East have a policy to increase full time jobs as there part time staff want a full time job. This basically means they lose jobs overall but increase the amount of full time jobs. In the main they have agreed where delivery methods have been deployed 4 hours 30 mins however on average because replishment time and relax breaks are included in the 4 hours 30 mins then in reality the delivery span is less than 4 hours.

Branch`s have agreed and off course offices will have a vote on their own local revision.

It may not be for everyone but the members will decide.
how do you work this 4hrs 30mins out weve just have our section reivision( 4 )in our office and weve lost 5 duties up to now in 1 section and the delivery span works out at 5hrs 30mins the shortest and upwards on commputer and no breaks or replenishment was included , and meal breaks are to be taken in the van ? how can you agree to this type of s*8t.
Are you from the north east though?
yes , due to start 1st nov , start times going to change as well 7.00am - 3.00pm mon to sat. should be fun.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
smileski wrote:It's all leading to exactly this in my area, the dom is all but relying on me to hold up the revision, as he knows it is being rushed in far to quick and is gonna be a complete balls up!!!!
It's been a complete disaster from start to finish. There hasn't been a cohesive plan, there has never been a completion of any half decent initiative. When we went to a five day week for example - that was the time to drop the Saturday delivery, before the rest day covers were employed.

There is only one culprit and that is Royal Mail management or rather mismanagement, not helped of course by opening the market and the derisory helping hand of the regulator.

The company will never recover from the hacking and chopping that has gone on for the last 10 years, the wounds are mortal.

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hi all
Do we get to vote on the length of duty span ie 5.30 hours more full time duties or 4.30 hours less full time duties if anyone is in the know
please advise as we as an office dont know where we stand
many thanks
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Yes you should.
Will you?
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We start 2nd week november the duties are done we where not told about any options like a vote
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So at what point in the revision wher we supposed to get to vote?
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Before stage 1 of the 6 step revision process you are all supposed to be asked about your hopes and aspirations for the revision.
It should take into account full-time to part time aspirations, delivery span desires and your planner should be able to explain to you the consequences of your decisions.
In your case it seems they overlooked this pre-revision activity.......or maybe they just didn't give a f**k.
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elverly wrote:hi all
Do we get to vote on the length of duty span ie 5.30 hours more full time duties or 4.30 hours less full time duties if anyone is in the know
please advise as we as an office dont know where we stand
many thanks
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