In our office today, because of the revision word has it they are trying to take out 240 hours per week,which equates to 6 jobs going. Maybe 1 or 2 will take evr if offered but what happens to the other 4 members of staff if this goes ahead? Which four in an office gets the boot? How is it decided on who the unlucky 4 are, seniority etc?
Could anyone on here whos office has already undertaken their revions comment on this subject?
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Hours out and job losses?
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fishtank
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
L.I.F.O....(last in...first out)
Going by rumour(what else do we have?)...it's more likely that all 6 will be terminations.
VR in a D.O. is a rare thing indeed at the moment.
Going by rumour(what else do we have?)...it's more likely that all 6 will be terminations.
VR in a D.O. is a rare thing indeed at the moment.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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filbert
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
What has happened to the national agreement.Cars off delivery,Four and five day weeks,One saturday off in four.It seems were just back to job cuts to slim down the staff for privatisation.Looks like there`s another fight around the corner.Bye Bye Con dems Partyderkhead wrote:In our office today, because of the revision word has it they are trying to take out 240 hours per week,which equates to 6 jobs going. Maybe 1 or 2 will take evr if offered but what happens to the other 4 members of staff if this goes ahead? Which four in an office gets the boot? How is it decided on who the unlucky 4 are, seniority etc?
Could anyone on here whos office has already undertaken their revions comment on this subject?
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POSTMAN
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
When you start to have your revision/'s you will know what is going on in your office.filbert wrote: What has happened to the national agreement.Cars off delivery,Four and five day weeks,One saturday off in four.It seems were just back to job cuts to slim down the staff for privatisation.Looks like there`s another fight around the corner.Bye Bye Con dems Party
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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postietaz
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
this is part of the final slaughter, 
time to wake up and smell the coffee people
time to wake up and smell the coffee people-
labbloke
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but LIFO finished years ago, its no longer allowed under EU law.fishtank wrote:L.I.F.O....(last in...first out)
Going by rumour(what else do we have?)...it's more likely that all 6 will be terminations.
VR in a D.O. is a rare thing indeed at the moment.
All companies who are downsizing are now using the Matrix system, this allows the bosses to gives a points score against every employee for headings such as reliability, sickness, training undertaken etc.
As you can imagine if this applied in our place then RM would be looking to get rid of the less dependable of us first.
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fishtank
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
labbloke wrote:
As you can imagine if this applied in our place then RM would be looking to get rid of the less dependable of us first.
Yes but it...doesn't.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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labbloke
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
It might not have done previously fish, but with privatisation coming, not all job losses will be EVR, and LIFO will not be used for Compulsories
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
Wow I understood every word of that postpostietaz wrote:this is part of the final slaughter,
Honest sometimes I gloss over your posts as I struggle to understand the point you are trying to make.
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
To a large extent, posties are contributing to their own downfall with the continued, and out-dated, obsession of early starts/early finishes!!!! My sympathies lie with local Reps having to fight local Managers with hollow arguments because posties choose to bury their heads and then blame the CWU when losses of hours, duties and jobs are incurred!
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POSTMAN
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
They're usually in the evening...TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Wow I understood every word of that postpostietaz wrote:this is part of the final slaughter,
Honest sometimes I gloss over your posts as I struggle to understand the point you are trying to make.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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countyboy
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
""Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but LIFO finished years ago, its no longer allowed under EU law.
All companies who are downsizing are now using the Matrix system, this allows the bosses to gives a points score against every employee for headings such as reliability, sickness, training undertaken etc.
As you can imagine if this applied in our place then RM would be looking to get rid of the less dependable of us first.[/quote]
Yes I went through that after 20 plus years in another industry..What tends to happen is those with their heads up the arses of managers survive on an imaginary scoring system which rewards the best bottom feeders..!!! So its become a creeping back stabbing tosser and lose all dignity or end up as a part time postman...I know which I prefer...
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Quite what the end result of an RM Matrix sweep would be I wouldnt have a clue...!!!
All companies who are downsizing are now using the Matrix system, this allows the bosses to gives a points score against every employee for headings such as reliability, sickness, training undertaken etc.
As you can imagine if this applied in our place then RM would be looking to get rid of the less dependable of us first.[/quote]
Yes I went through that after 20 plus years in another industry..What tends to happen is those with their heads up the arses of managers survive on an imaginary scoring system which rewards the best bottom feeders..!!! So its become a creeping back stabbing tosser and lose all dignity or end up as a part time postman...I know which I prefer...
...Quite what the end result of an RM Matrix sweep would be I wouldnt have a clue...!!!
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barbario
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
Was told about the MC closures in London on Friday.Only Mount Pleasant will survive going forward. This will create over 900 surplus staff,so God knowns whats going to happen next. If Royal Mail do use the matrix system,then a few of us long service guys are nearer the front door than we realised. 
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
Looks like i'm out thenbarbario wrote:Was told about the MC closures in London on Friday.Only Mount Pleasant will survive going forward. This will create over 900 surplus staff,so God knowns whats going to happen next. If Royal Mail do use the matrix system,then a few of us long service guys are nearer the front door than we realised.
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barbario
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Re: Hours out and job losses?
I could well be joining you mate.