Stick around for a while, and you'll see this one was of a quite good standard. Don't know about the Express though.....Daily Sport, maybe..?I see Axeman you have posted on 1,524 occasions. Let me assure you, this was not one of your better ones. Spelling was dreadful, punctuation, equally as bad, if not worse, and as for the arguments you put forward, on a par with the sort of blinkered nonsense you would expect to read in the Daily Express.
You and axeman seem to have similar attitudes on this topic though.Tman wrote:Stick around for a while, and you'll see this one was of a quite good standard. Don't know about the Express though.....Daily Sport, maybe..?I see Axeman you have posted on 1,524 occasions. Let me assure you, this was not one of your better ones. Spelling was dreadful, punctuation, equally as bad, if not worse, and as for the arguments you put forward, on a par with the sort of blinkered nonsense you would expect to read in the Daily Express.
Really? So point me to where I said anything dreogatory about Islam or ethnic minorities then...You and axeman seem to have similar attitudes on this topic though.
This is the reverse of that argument though. The "old racism card" is usually used by workers of various minority's to gain an advantage. The original Article posted by teebs makes no mention of a racist agenda by RM or even a suggestion of it by the aggrieved party. I believe Clash's point is that some posters on here are using "business needs" as an excuse not to support a position that perhaps they would have in another situation may have some merit.Tman wrote:[Could be, but the old racism card has been played so often by so many that it's been devalued to the point of clichéd parody.Or some people are hiding their racism behind a business/economic need.
"Wolf" has been cried too many times....
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Secular does not mean does not mix
Secular:
1. of or relating to worldly as opposed to sacred things; temporal
2. not concerned with or related to religion
3. not within the control of the Church
4. (Social Science / Education) (of an education, etc.)
a. having no particular religious affinities
b. not including compulsory religious studies or services
5. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) (of clerics) not bound by religious vows to a monastic or other order
6. occurring or appearing once in an age or century
7. lasting for a long time
I think you meant sectarian:
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sect.
2. Adhering or confined to the dogmatic limits of a sect or denomination; partisan.
3. Narrow-minded; parochial.
n.
1. A member of a sect.
2. One characterized by bigoted adherence to a factional viewpoint.
As to the majority of Asian being Sectarian in their out look - well having lived in Hong Kong for 3 years and seeing the integration there the assertion in my own experience does not ring true. However, in the UK, it may be a different matter but is that the fault of the immigrants themselves, or a reaction to the welcome they receive, and their treatment when they do settle down. Perhaps they feel safer in a community that shares their values rather than in one that attacks it.
Yes there are both bad and good in Islam, just as there are in any group you care to name, how about Posties or Trade Unionists. However, I have never come across a single group which is either all bad or all good, each individual should be treated with respect they earn themselves, no matter what labels can be applied to them. Do we have a problem with immigration in this country, IMO Yes, but its a Political or Organisational problem not a ethnicity or religious one and those that believe otherwise are IMHO deluding themselves and are helping to perpetuate the problem.
) and even the Filipino gathering in Statue square on Sundays seemed quite cosmopolitan.
and shall continue to do so. 
Well I hadn't any personal knowledge of integrationTrueBlueTerrier wrote:I was there 86 to 89 and Based in Sek Kong in the New Territories. About 95% are Chinese but there are also Filipino , Japanese, Indian, Nepalese, Indonesian, Thai and Pakistani people living in HK that make up a significant % of the remaining 5% and as far as I know there are no ghettos or neighbourhoods known for a particular ethnic group, (unless you count married quarters for the brits
The intergeneration you alluded to is shall we say well known in the district you mentioned in a previous post - and I deny all personal knowledge of that subject.
.............................but you would have to admit that any sort of ghetto would have been extremely difficult given the limited space..................I mean we were pretty much on top of one another in some instances I spent some time in Sek Kong too whilst in the Far East.........was Princess still holding court in that little shop and the muckerjees with the spanish omelettes and coffee and tea and the boot boys............for those who didn't have the pleasure, they were servants..........................oh how I wish...................bobbyden wrote:
but the mesage still remains the same, blinkered think again and read the 'satanic verses'
axeman wrote:and it appears you understood it 'bobyden' when i have more time available i'll do the punctuation properly for you promisebobbyden wrote:
I see Axeman you have posted on 1,524 occasions. Let me assure you, this was not one of your better ones. Spelling was dreadful, punctuation, equally as bad, if not worse, and as for the arguments you put forward, on a par with the sort of blinkered nonsense you would expect to read in the Daily Express.
Go away, then return with a far more intelligent viewpoint, which I am sure you are capable of doing.
sorry 'tman' but i'd much rather the sport than the propaganda from old st
) It is not based on actual events recorded in history, but rather he is mocking Islam in the way he knows best i.e writing fiction. So please don't use the Satanic verses as proof of your backward thinking.
You obviously don't know your facts axeman. The death threat was issued by one man who was not even part of mainstream Islam - he didn't represent the views of 1.5billion Muslims, but a minority in Iran. You're quite welcome to condemn him as I would, but don't tarnish a whole religion with one mans views, otherwise every religion can be brought down based on a followers words or actions.axeman wrote:mearly used the words 'satanic verses' did i mention salman rushdie .....oh and does the fatwa still exist ?? now just what was that for and didn't the meaning of that mean a death threat ....peacful at least some of them are peaceloving eh !!
thank goodness
Yes the fatwa is still in existence ...............I've seen him on TV just recently talking about the privatisation of RM.axeman wrote:mearly used the words 'satanic verses' did i mention salman rushdie .....oh and does the fatwa still exist ?? now just what was that for and didn't the meaning of that mean a death threat ....peacful at least some of them are peaceloving eh !!
thank goodness
Other than the Crusades, name some then?There have been many wars fought in the name of Christianity.
Are 2 Centuries of wars not enough of an example for you?Tman wrote:Other than the Crusades, name some then?There have been many wars fought in the name of Christianity.
