Don't back the union on this one.

[fishtank]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

Unfortunately BELIAL the union is not in a financial position to play fast and loose with the rules...and they know it.

[BELIAL]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

Unfortunately BELIAL the union is not in a financial position to play fast and loose with the rules...and they know it.

This goes way beyond "the union" fishy Anyhow if they don't do something soon ,they never will ,look at the numbers Not much point in keeping your powder dry if you've lost all your riflemen is there?

[fishtank]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

Unfortunately BELIAL the union is not in a financial position to play fast and loose with the rules...and they know it.

This goes way beyond "the union" fishy Anyhow if they don't do something soon ,they never will ,look at the numbers Not much point in keeping your powder dry if you've lost all your riflemen is there?

I totally agree...but they won't.

[BELIAL]

I totally agree...but they won't.

could be Still in that case we would end up with a new and very different union

[Eric Cantona]

If its Privatised or sold the new owners won't recognise any union full stop. we will have to work our hours, there may be a chance of not getting paid whilst we are off or on the sick, the bonuses will go, paid monthly will be in, me thinks it will be better in the long run, simple reason the new owners will want the job doing proper.. Labour Government and CWU were so close to each other it was un believable, now they are both doomed, not that i am a coalition in favour.

[norwichchris]

What a total prat! If it comes to industrial action this will be one of the most crucial strikes ever in RM. We should all support the CWU on this, as it's our
future we're talking about. There's bound to be dirty strike breakers who'll ignore the CWU, but what's new!!! If we're bought out by TNT we'll be on the same contracts as their staff, minimum wage, less annual leave etc. Sound attractive anyone?

[clashcityrocker]

me thinks it will be better in the long run, simple reason the new owners will want the job doing proper.

And have you seen the health and safety figures for a non-unionised workplace compared to a unionised one?

[gb93]

What a total prat! Sound attractive anyone?

To some enlightened ones it can't possibly get any worse than now if we are privatised.
So why fight it,FT contracts and 50% pay rises for all after privatisation and the biggest improvement of T&C of all time NO MORE LAPSING, no working all paid hours after privatisation

[clashcityrocker]

To some enlightened ones it can't possibly get any worse than now if we are privatised.

And under privatisation we will all own at least a 50% stake in the company.
That must count for something.

[gb93]

To some enlightened ones it can't possibly get any worse than now if we are privatised.

And under privatisation we will all own at least a 50% stake in the company.
That must count for something.

Sorry
CCR missed that one on the news or papers were did you get that info from.
And I could be wrong but don't we all have a 100% stake in the company as it is.

[dvbuk55]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

The last privatisation scheme from Mandelson was hurried and a bit of a surprise and close to the election and Labour would need union support for the election but the Condems don't rely on the unions, they rely on the very people who are likely to buy RM.

[POSTMAN]

To some enlightened ones it can't possibly get any worse than now if we are privatised.

And under privatisation we will all own at least a 50% stake in the company.
That must count for something.

Where's the 50% come from,our bribe is 20%,the employees that is.

[joeboy]

are you mad, this is not about the union, its about our jobs, you would rather have privitisation, than back your union, god give me strenght!!!

[BELIAL]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

The last privatisation scheme from Mandelson was hurried and a bit of a surprise and close to the election and Labour would need union support for the election but the Condems don't rely on the unions, they rely on the very people who are likely to buy RM.

Yes ,sorry DV that was more of a general comment rather than a response purely to privatisation , thinking more of the Poll tax, welfare system, social housing,NHS,"land fit for heroes",universal suffrage .
As far as Mandy goes, I think you would be unwise to take any of his actions or utterances at face value. In all likelihood his pursuit of privatisation was more than likely a means to a very different end, I would not be too surprised if he did not achieve exactly the result he wanted with the 'defeat'.
Funny thing is ,where Mandy and new liebour were slowly sucking us dry while smiling and being our best chums, these conocrats are like a heard of bulls. So clunky and hamfisted they seem to have forgotten that RM is already 30% private if not more

[dvbuk55]

I wouldn't get too hung up on "oh dear we must obey the rules" if you gain enough support to defy the fat cats agenda they tend to back down for fear of losing the game set and match

The last privatisation scheme from Mandelson was hurried and a bit of a surprise and close to the election and Labour would need union support for the election but the Condems don't rely on the unions, they rely on the very people who are likely to buy RM.

Yes ,sorry DV that was more of a general comment rather than a response purely to privatisation , thinking more of the Poll tax, welfare system, social housing,NHS,"land fit for heroes",universal suffrage .
As far as Mandy goes, I think you would be unwise to take any of his actions or utterances at face value. In all likelihood his pursuit of privatisation was more than likely a means to a very different end, I would not be too surprised if he did not achieve exactly the result he wanted with the 'defeat'.
Funny thing is ,where Mandy and new liebour were slowly sucking us dry while smiling and being our best chums, these conocrats are like a heard of bulls. So clunky and hamfisted they seem to have forgotten that RM is already 30% private if not more

It makes you wonder though if TNT or DHL or whoever bought RM - would they allow the others to have the same access and at the same price........... I'd better my bottom dollar there would be enormous changes in the pricing structure and access to the service.