Does 4hour30+ Deliveries signal the end of 20 hour contracts

[pop it in pete]

Cant see 20hr contracts going myself. Remember the new buzz words "FLEXING UP". Thats just what they expect the lower hr contracts to want to do on the days traffic is high. But only pay them for 2ohrs when on leave.
A work hungry workforce in a very dodge finacial climate wow Royal Mail have created the capitalists dream ladscape in a nationalised industry. Arnt they the clever bastards!!!!
Ofcourse they could never have done it with out full cooperation with the workforce via the union

[Guevarista]

NewPostieUK wrote:-


"Yes, you claim overtime for the hours you do in excess of your contracted hours.

Here's my hours:
Sat, Mon and Tues I work 5 hours. Wed Thurs and Fri I work 6 hours.
My contract? 25 hours.

"

A prime example of how part-timers are f****d over in RM. Your contract states 25hrs, yet your regular working hours are (unless my maths is failing me) 27.5. I wonder if your holiday/sick/delivery supplement/bonus payments are pro rata to the hours you actually work..... no, didn't think so!

[NewPostieUK]

I know what you mean when you say it can't be done, but since when have Royal Mail been bothered about contracted hours being equal to hours needed to complete? I'm a prime example. My start and finish times bare no resemblance to my actual contracted hours. Come to think of it, my start and finish times rarely reflect the hours actually taken to do the duty.

NewPostieUK wrote:-

"Yes, you claim overtime for the hours you do in excess of your contracted hours.

Here's my hours:
Sat, Mon and Tues I work 5 hours. Wed Thurs and Fri I work 6 hours.
My contract? 25 hours.

"

A prime example of how part-timers are f****d over in RM. Your contract states 25hrs, yet your regular working hours are (unless my maths is failing me) 27.5. I wonder if your holiday/sick/delivery supplement/bonus payments are pro rata to the hours you actually work..... no, didn't think so!

Spot on.

[gb93]

Couple of quick questions Newpostie
Are you a signed for duty holder,covering a vacant duty or a reserve.
And do you get SA for the extra hours you work over your contract.

[speedypostman]

RM won't change the contracts because they only pay you on a 20 hours for holiday pay and sickness, not even going into the pension at that point. They think at least 90% of those contract holders will do the overtime because of the money factor so why should they. I wouldn't. But you can work your contracted hours without any overtime and that would F**k up your lino or dino and nothing they can do about it. As for flexibility, tell them you have others things to. Looks like management will be busy in the next few month on the pavement....

[oralrural]

Can 20 hour contracts work on longer delivery spans, I can't see it.
Anyone tell me how it can be done, I reckon it could be 25 hour min contracts.

Don't know where you get 4hour 30+deliveries from.
Next month we are starting the next phase on van sharing and our delivery time is to be 3hours and 50 mins looking forward to it and the bonus payment.

[NewPostieUK]

Couple of quick questions Newpostie
Are you a signed for duty holder,covering a vacant duty or a reserve.
And do you get SA for the extra hours you work over your contract.

I'm a floater, doing duty holders day off, but haven't signed for anything, and I get changed around to cover absence etc. Duty holders often work their day off, and I'll do a different duty.

Every wed, thurs and fri I have to claim one hour overtime, plus any 'real' overtime. That one hour is just finishing at my proper time. Can't remember what SA is, no one has ever mentioned it, I've just heard of it on here.

Evvery time my day off is a wed, thurs or fri, I get ripped off, as I only get 5 hrs pay, yet always work 6 on those days.

[fishtank]

Evvery time my day off is a wed, thurs or fri, I get ripped off, as I only get 5 hrs pay, yet always work 6 on those days.

You don't get any hrs pay on your day off....that's why they call it a day off.
Although i understand your point that you've lost the opportunity to earn 6hrs.

[NewPostieUK]

Evvery time my day off is a wed, thurs or fri, I get ripped off, as I only get 5 hrs pay, yet always work 6 on those days.

You don't get any hrs pay on your day off....that's why they call it a day off.
Although i understand your point that you've lost the opportunity to earn 6hrs.

What I meant was (OK I didn't, I was just confused) holidays. Yes, that's it, if I have a holiday on those days, I get ripped off. Good friday for example, and every time I have a week off I get 5x5 hrs.

[gb93]

If your overtime on wed,thur & fri is planned every week then you could ask for scheduled attendance for them 3 hours which is a higher pay rate.
But then Dom could turn round and say ok then you ungratefull sod just do your 5 hour contracted and I will lapse the 3 hours or give someone else the overtime.
If you are a reserve covering a vacant floater duty i am surprisedyou get the extra hour at all honestly.
If your contract is 25 hours then any overtime is voluntary and is not due to be paid while on annual leave or sick.

[POSTMAN]

Don't know where you get 4hour 30+deliveries from.
Next month we are starting the next phase on van sharing and our delivery time is to be 3hours and 50 mins looking forward to it and the bonus payment.

Strange,i would of thought you would of got replies about 5-6hr deliveries.

[dvbuk55]

Don't know where you get 4hour 30+deliveries from.
Next month we are starting the next phase on van sharing and our delivery time is to be 3hours and 50 mins looking forward to it and the bonus payment.

Strange,i would of thought you would of got replies about 5-6hr deliveries.

Could you itemise the delivery, like what you are doing for the 8 hour shift? That would perhaps help others. I mean does the 3 hours 50 include the parcels and packets, the specials and tracked? How about IPS and prep.

[fishtank]

Don't know where you get 4hour 30+deliveries from.
Next month we are starting the next phase on van sharing and our delivery time is to be 3hours and 50 mins looking forward to it and the bonus payment.

Strange,i would of thought you would of got replies about 5-6hr deliveries.

There are two directions an office can take.

A)It can go for longer deliveries and attempt to provide more full-time positions(although less jobs overall).
B)It can accept a higher ratio of part-timers thus providing more indoor work for the full-timers and therefore keep the span slightly shorter.

Both are valid options and offices should be looking at both but obviously both have drawbacks.

[steven100]

People may stay part-time but work on certain days, probably Thurs, fri and sat.