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Geezer
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:
Postal1 wrote:To understand this IWT can i give an example:

Say your office is set at 12. At the end of the day you've thrown in your mech mail(walk sequenced), gone and got mail off the roads several times, packets, kill offs, d2d's, packets, redirections all the way to bagged up and ready to go out. Say you were counted in 1200items. Does this mean you should have done all this and ready to go in 100mins?
Or is it just from throwing in to last letter in?
Plus, what happens to these times o you get recalled to do more road sorting to get it pushed through, or waiting for mail to all go through before you can band up?

Rate of 12 per minute is only while on prep. If at frame 10 mins you should be able to prep 120 letters into frame. Total indoor time includes trips between IPS and frame, between locker and frame, between DBF and frame etc. etc.
The indoor workload tool traffic is based on your unit model traffic week and includes an estimate of how much traffic each frame receives - your prep time is based on this.

There is no doubt that the Indoor workload tool is to the advantage of the OPG. Hence some RM managers don't like it.

Tamsky

The problem is IWT only gives you the time to clear down once. If you have two waves of mail or you have to keep going back and forth to get letters, packets, parcels, you lose that time because according to IWT you only do it once.
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Hi Geezer

you should be allowed clear down time as required - after each wave arrival for example. Logically you cannot only have one clear down since you could not carry all letters, flats and packet drop bags at one time. As Managers keep quoting to me a reasonable approach should be taken.

I don't want to sound like a cheer leader for the IWT - it's not perfect but is much much better that the discredited capacity plan so beloved of West Coast jobsworths.
Geezer
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:Hi Geezer

you should be allowed clear down time as required - after each wave arrival for example. Logically you cannot only have one clear down since you could not carry all letters, flats and packet drop bags at one time. As Managers keep quoting to me a reasonable approach should be taken.

I don't want to sound like a cheer leader for the IWT - it's not perfect but is much much better that the discredited capacity plan so beloved of West Coast jobsworths.

Agree

But i got on the phone to the planner and he said it cant be input or done in IWT, So i got onto ADR and he said he would find out about it for me but still no news and that was 3 wks ago. :arrrghhh
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

Post by woofwoof »

so how many bags does iwt let you throw out
Tamsky
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Geezer :wave

Just read through the bumf again and you are right the planner is advised to enter the measured distance for one clear down

"Distances input should be for a single journey between the points shown. If a circular journey is made e.g. clearing down a number of sorting frames and taking the mail to Preparation, the total distance should be measured and half the distance input into the appropriate box."

Will query this higher up the food chain :roll:
Geezer
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Cheers tamsky

Nice one :wave
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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There are no problems in Scotland...so it has been said and so shall it be written. :cuppa
Let examine the facts , in Scotland the agreement on deliveries is going well
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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I would suggest going well and going perfect are two different things :hmmmm
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Big Daz wrote:I would suggest going well and going perfect are two different things :hmmmm
and if I may be so bold as to suggest as to whether your viewpoint is from the operational end or on the implementation/administrative one. :hmmmm
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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As I understand it, some Scottish self-starter offices have been told how many hours have to be saved at the start of the revision process and are expected to use an unagreed capacity plan to achieve it, instead of the agreed IWT.
Not going well and not going anywhere are two separate things.
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Heard the same myself top brass up in glasgow area want to revert to capacity plan as the IWT don't realise enough savings.I would like to think the union officials in the area would hold the line in the national agreement.Time will tell eh!!!
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

Post by guvenor »

ayrshire going to tell them where to go iwt or fo
no more lies please wheres the bonus for implementation of revisions i ask what bonus get a life
glasgow fu***d differennt from from rest of west coast and were not takin shi* no more
table top revisions :Boo hoo! capacity work plan :Boo hoo! i dont think so workforce had enough
iwt not being pursued cos mgmt havn,t a clue
whens the revolution :crazy:
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Comrade Molotov I presume
barbario
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

Post by barbario »

All things being considered,this company really is in a major crisis, all of its own making. :arrrghhh