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Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Big Daz
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
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Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Well that certainly will affect the national average - in fact why not get rid of all the part timers and the ratio will be what it was 15 years ago.
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Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle
What! Hush your mouth ft, who would negotiate all those wonderful duty structures and bring forth those nuggets that make this deal all worthwhile. :chuckle
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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dvbuk55 wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle
What! Hush your mouth ft, who would negotiate all those wonderful duty structures and bring forth those nuggets that make this deal all worthwhile. :chuckle

Now Now gentlemen

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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Geezer wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle
What! Hush your mouth ft, who would negotiate all those wonderful duty structures and bring forth those nuggets that make this deal all worthwhile. :chuckle

Now Now gentlemen

The Naughty Room awaits !
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Did you have permission to use DGPs bum? :chuckle
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle

And the point is?

Is it a crime to be a FT to PT OPG via a national agreement yet still want to see the majority of duties being FT.

As the leaver is a 32 hour PT rather than a 40 hour FT that helps with the national split.

The ratio of FT to PT duties is currently 1/6th PT 5/6th FT

Even if the PT wanted FT work there is no extra work for them to do, a rather inconveient truth. Of course we could always reduce PT staffing levels and absorb PT work amongst PT duties to make them FT. That would mean job losses though.

Oh dear stuck between a rock and a hard place. :crazy:
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Big Daz wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Ratio has just gone up in my D.Oo in favour of FT, wonders what a PT leaving can do, especially for the amount of O/T being paid out. It's through the roof at my D.O :Very Happy
Sorry Daz but our six part-time new starts this week trumps your one part-timer leaving every time....so do you have any more volunteers to redress the balance. :hmmmm
Wait a minute aren't you........ :chuckle

And the point is?

Is it a crime to be a FT to PT OPG via a national agreement yet still want to see the majority of duties being FT.
There wasn't one Daz...it was just a joke,i have no axe to grind with anyone who "bought down",you take me far too seriously sometimes. :chuckle
Even if the PT wanted FT work there is no extra work for them to do, a rather inconveient truth. Of course we could always reduce PT staffing levels and absorb PT work amongst PT duties to make them FT. That would mean job losses though.

Oh dear stuck between a rock and a hard place. :crazy:
You've hit the nail on the head there Daz,the inconvenient truth is...

A.Job losses are mainly full-time and mainly in the M/Cs.
B.Part-time staff are mainly in the D.O.s.....mainly less senior and unlikely to be offered VR.

Unless these revisions produce oodles of new work :roll:then how do you move part-time to full-time without reducing your headcount?
And if you do reduce your headcount how do you then protect this 75/25 ratio?
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Big Daz
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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We have 1 X FT vacany and 1 X PT (32 hour floater duty) vacany


We have two FTers both holding duties retiring this year.


For every D.O with less than 75% FT you are going to need another with more than 75% FT

We have 64 staff members at the moment of which 10 are PT.

2,000 + delivery points rapidly being built and occupied

The future for my D.O is?

Predictions on a post card to Big Daz C/O RMC Cyberspace CBS 1AA :cool
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Big Daz wrote:We have 1 X FT vacany and 1 X PT (32 hour floater duty) vacany


We have two FTers both holding duties retiring this year.


For every D.O with less than 75% FT you are going to need another with more than 75% FT

We have 64 staff members at the moment of which 10 are PT.

2,000 + delivery points rapidly being built and occupied

The future for my D.O is?

Predictions on a post card to Big Daz C/O RMC Cyberspace CBS 1AA :cool
No postcard - amalgamation with a larger delivery office saving managers, staff, space - its coming to a DO near you folks. CDVs = mobility.
Big Daz
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Are we allowed to use the most busiset nightmare route from the new location to the delivery location :hmmmm
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Re: Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

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Big Daz wrote:Are we allowed to use the most busiset nightmare route from the new location to the delivery location :hmmmm
I don't know - if you tell me which is the busiset route ..................... :chuckle