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S6 Stroller wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Revision is the key word!!!!
Most helpful. I'll pass that on. FFS.
Seek and you shall find,you know how the forum works.How many times do you want to see it in black and white lol.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=27393" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=25251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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POSTMAN wrote:
S6 Stroller wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Revision is the key word!!!!
Most helpful. I'll pass that on. FFS.
Seek and you shall find,you know how the forum works.How many times do you want to see it in black and white lol.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=27393" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=25251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm getting sick to the back teeth of the sarcastic f***ing overtones on here when somebody asks for help and it's been 'covered to death already'. Basically, what you mean is 'We all understand it, you must be thick'. Not everybody understands what all the terms mean. People are screaming out for help to understand what the f**k is going on, I try to get help on their (and my) behalf and all I get is links to threads that use the same terminology so get us no further...not forgetting the smart arse quip tagged onto the end of your 'help' to make you look like Oscar f***ing Wilde in front of your pals. I made it quite clear that I needed it SIMPLIFYING for me and lots of other people who are being left in the dark by Royal Mail and CWU. I asked our CWU reps and they were useless. They're all Royal Mail apologists anyway. I don't know why I bothered asking them.

It's academic now but all I wanted was something along the lines of 'XYZ Revision =', 'ABC Revision =' ...followed by some examples of procedures that are being implemented under the respective headings in the hope that colleagues may recognise these in their own workplace and maybe be able to piece together what stage they're at.

Silly of me to give a f**k really.
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S6 Stroller wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
S6 Stroller wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Revision is the key word!!!!
Most helpful. I'll pass that on. FFS.
Seek and you shall find,you know how the forum works.How many times do you want to see it in black and white lol.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=27393" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=25251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm getting sick to the back teeth of the sarcastic f***ing overtones on here when somebody asks for help and it's been 'covered to death already'. Basically, what you mean is 'We all understand it, you must be thick'. Not everybody understands what all the terms mean. People are screaming out for help to understand what the f**k is going on, I try to get help on their (and my) behalf and all I get is links to threads that use the same terminology so get us no further...not forgetting the smart arse quip tagged onto the end of your 'help' to make you look like Oscar f***ing Wilde in front of your pals. I made it quite clear that I needed it SIMPLIFYING for me and lots of other people who are being left in the dark by Royal Mail and CWU. I asked our CWU reps and they were useless. They're all Royal Mail apologists anyway. I don't know why I bothered asking them.

It's academic now but all I wanted was something along the lines of 'XYZ Revision =', 'ABC Revision =' ...followed by some examples of procedures that are being implemented under the respective headings in the hope that colleagues may recognise these in their own workplace and maybe be able to piece together what stage they're at.

Silly of me to give a f**k really.
Calm down lol,

£200 when non sequenced mail revision comes in/Find out when it is then there you go.

£600 when sequenced mail revision comes in/Find out when it is then there you go.

£200 when WS revision is working BUT NO LATER than 6 weeks after implementation.

Not much more to say tbh...
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Someone took that bad..............the agreement wasn't that difficult to read and understand so maybe the problem was not reading it and just hoping that the answers will be spoon fed to them and then throwing a strop when it doesn't come their way (sounds like my kids TBH).
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I ve adopted the attitude that if we get any of it than good but if not I wont miss any sleep over it as I ve been shafted too many times by this firm. :sad:
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Big Daz wrote: £200 when non sequenced mail revision comes in

£600 when sequenced mail revision comes in

£200 when WS revision is working BUT NO LATER than 6 weeks after implementation.
^^^^^That is the easiest way to explain it.^^^^^
S6 Stroller wrote: I'm getting sick to the back teeth of the sarcastic f***ing overtones on here when somebody asks for help and it's been 'covered to death already'. Basically, what you mean is 'We all understand it, you must be thick'. Not everybody understands what all the terms mean. People are screaming out for help to understand what the f**k is going on, I try to get help on their (and my) behalf and all I get is links to threads that use the same terminology so get us no further...not forgetting the smart arse quip tagged onto the end of your 'help' to make you look like Oscar f***ing Wilde in front of your pals. I made it quite clear that I needed it SIMPLIFYING for me and lots of other people who are being left in the dark by Royal Mail and CWU. I asked our CWU reps and they were useless. They're all Royal Mail apologists anyway. I don't know why I bothered asking them.

It's academic now but all I wanted was something along the lines of 'XYZ Revision =', 'ABC Revision =' ...followed by some examples of procedures that are being implemented under the respective headings in the hope that colleagues may recognise these in their own workplace and maybe be able to piece together what stage they're at.

Silly of me to give a f**k really.
Rather than go off on a rant perhaps you could explain what is confusing you about the explanation, the details Big Daz gave are the procedures and there are no other hoops to jump through. Help us help you so we can all keep cool. :cool Image

However, I'll try and simplfy it.

1. £200 when you get the next revision implemented. (for most this will be when Vans come in but not in every office)

2. £600 when your letters start arriving in order of delivery and the revision for this takes place.

3. £200 when the walk sequencing revision has bedded in or 6 weeks later whichever comes first.

I am sorry but over a keyboard there is no simpler way of explaining it.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Big Daz wrote: £200 when non sequenced mail revision comes in

£600 when sequenced mail revision comes in

£200 when WS revision is working BUT NO LATER than 6 weeks after implementation.
^^^^^That is the easiest way to explain it.^^^^^
S6 Stroller wrote: I'm getting sick to the back teeth of the sarcastic f***ing overtones on here when somebody asks for help and it's been 'covered to death already'. Basically, what you mean is 'We all understand it, you must be thick'. Not everybody understands what all the terms mean. People are screaming out for help to understand what the f**k is going on, I try to get help on their (and my) behalf and all I get is links to threads that use the same terminology so get us no further...not forgetting the smart arse quip tagged onto the end of your 'help' to make you look like Oscar f***ing Wilde in front of your pals. I made it quite clear that I needed it SIMPLIFYING for me and lots of other people who are being left in the dark by Royal Mail and CWU. I asked our CWU reps and they were useless. They're all Royal Mail apologists anyway. I don't know why I bothered asking them.

It's academic now but all I wanted was something along the lines of 'XYZ Revision =', 'ABC Revision =' ...followed by some examples of procedures that are being implemented under the respective headings in the hope that colleagues may recognise these in their own workplace and maybe be able to piece together what stage they're at.

Silly of me to give a f**k really.
Rather than go off on a rant perhaps you could explain what is confusing you about the explanation, the details Big Daz gave are the procedures and there are no other hoops to jump through. Help us help you so we can all keep cool. :cool Image

However, I'll try and simplfy it.

1. £200 when you get the next revision implemented. (for most this will be when Vans come in but not in every office)

2. £600 when your letters start arriving in order of delivery and the revision for this takes place.

3. £200 when the walk sequencing revision has bedded in or 6 weeks later whichever comes first.

I am sorry but over a keyboard there is no simpler way of explaining it.
Sorry for rant. This company is slowly driving me mad.

That is a great help mate. That is all I wanted. Thank you very much.

Sorry again for losing it everybody.
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Yep they have put the walk seq machines in the wrong place so now it is a legal issue with the company
who fitted them and would cost £30.000 to move them again so it could now be delayed by a month while
they sought it out but the mail centre along with 3 others in kent will shut by 2012 to be replaced by one .
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Just found out today that our sequenced mail revision comes in on the 26th of this month, so that'll be a nice 600 quid quick fix to sweeten the path to park & loop slavery.
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wiganpostie wrote:Just found out today that our sequenced mail revision comes in on the 26th of this month, so that'll be a nice 600 quid quick fix to sweeten the path to park & loop slavery.
Please let us know if you get it :Very Happy

Dont hold your breath though as this firm is a slippy as a bucket of eels :whistle
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I will do, but if their tardiness with park & loop is anything to go by I won't be holding my breath (they've been talking about putting park & loop in our office for well over two years now, and still no sign of it).
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wiganpostie wrote:Just found out today that our sequenced mail revision comes in on the 26th of this month, so that'll be a nice 600 quid quick fix to sweeten the path to park & loop slavery.
Somebody say the company is as slipary as an eal. Too blomin right.
Get walk sequence machines in and get £600. (Mmm, no you wont. We hvae had the machines in longet than 6 weeks and guess what. Zip!
£200 for cdv's. (we have them too. £200 please. No you don't get that either.

atm we are lapsing rounds where our union guy is saying isn't achievable on some days. Management says it is. Now we are getting lots of cut offs with people not leaving the office until 10.30 with four d2d's.
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Postal1 wrote:
wiganpostie wrote:Just found out today that our sequenced mail revision comes in on the 26th of this month, so that'll be a nice 600 quid quick fix to sweeten the path to park & loop slavery.
Somebody say the company is as slipary as an eal. Too blomin right.
Get walk sequence machines in and get £600. (Mmm, no you wont. We hvae had the machines in longet than 6 weeks and guess what. Zip!
£200 for cdv's. (we have them too. £200 please. No you don't get that either.

atm we are lapsing rounds where our union guy is saying isn't achievable on some days. Management says it is. Now we are getting lots of cut offs with people not leaving the office until 10.30 with four d2d's.
We're getting the WSM's this month as well, the CWU rep in our office is saying we won't get any bonuses until November (when we have a CDV revision). Are all reps complete plebs who know nothing or is it just him? Where is he getting his incorrect information from?

Or is he actually right and we'll get nothing when the WSM's come in? Has anyone on here got the WSM's and the bonus yet?
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OnAFlyer wrote:
Postal1 wrote:
wiganpostie wrote:Just found out today that our sequenced mail revision comes in on the 26th of this month, so that'll be a nice 600 quid quick fix to sweeten the path to park & loop slavery.
Somebody say the company is as slipary as an eal. Too blomin right.
Get walk sequence machines in and get £600. (Mmm, no you wont. We hvae had the machines in longet than 6 weeks and guess what. Zip!
£200 for cdv's. (we have them too. £200 please. No you don't get that either.

atm we are lapsing rounds where our union guy is saying isn't achievable on some days. Management says it is. Now we are getting lots of cut offs with people not leaving the office until 10.30 with four d2d's.
We're getting the WSM's this month as well, the CWU rep in our office is saying we won't get any bonuses until November (when we have a CDV revision). Are all reps complete plebs who know nothing or is it just him? Where is he getting his incorrect information from?

Or is he actually right and we'll get nothing when the WSM's come in? Has anyone on here got the WSM's and the bonus yet?
He may be correct on a Technical Point as the 2010 Blurb says
Lump Sums
The payment of £1,000 (pro rata for part time employees) consisting of 3 lump sums will be paid as follows.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of their first non walk sequencing revision.
£600 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of the walk sequencing revision.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit when the Walk Sequencing revision has been implemented, and objectives achieved in line with the local agreement and no later than the end of the 6 week bedding in period.
So my guess is that the CWU and RM are sticking to the "revision" wording in the document. In that you can still get walk sequenced mail from the MC but if you have not had a revision to go with it, RM are dodging the lump sum till you have a revision. :mad :mad :mad


My advice is make sure that the revisions are done as quickly as possible when you get Sequenced Mail or/and CDVs.
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Postal 1and On a flyer

Revision is the key word, no revsion no money, that simple.

If you have sequenced mail before you do a revision you can do the revision on the reality of what sequenced mail brings with it rather than guessing and relying on RM info.