Okay; we realise it's not the best deal..

[Straight4ward]

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[OnAFlyer]

You ever worked in a factory??? I have, the crack with the lads was bang on, no backstabbing or working complete c**ts. Plus the money was alot better, also you had the choice if you wanted to work saturdays.

Depends what factory doesn't it. Screwing nuts onto bolts or packing chisels (2 of the jobs I saw at the jobcentre years ago) for 8 hours a day doesn't really sound appealing.

I never lasted longer than 8 days in a job before I started at RM, and I still love it just as much now. It's easy work compared to a lot of people I know who leave the house at 7am and get home at 7pm with a long commute through rush hour traffic. And no, they don't all earn a lot more money!

[BELIAL]

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I am not a Union Member.

we are own worst enemies.



We moan that 'some people are not doing their extra'



We are our own worst enemy.

I guess you refused all pay rises that your fellow union member workers fought and paid for. Or are you just one of the freeloading parasite's who let others fight their corner and then pocket all the gains?

You miss my point.

The basis is the refusal to accept that job and finish is no more. The refusal to accept that hours have to be worked. This blindness gives RM Management carte blanche to load up more and more work.

I use the word 'we' as it was better in this context as the word 'i' would not apply.

And don't assume that I am a freeloading parasite or call me such. As you don't know me.

No , I got your point and agree fully.
I'm assuming nothing ,it was a question . However you do state you are not a union member and have yet to clarify wether or not you refuse to accept any changes to your terms and conditions that have been negotiated by the union. If you put nothing in to the struggle in terms of subs or solidarity but are wiling to accept the benefits that are won then the term freeloading parasite is simply a statement of fact. Not nice I admit but the situation is of your choosing

[PostieWithTheMostie!]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

[andy2007]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

Why?
I think it's far more likley, that they're so out of touch with the day to day realities of being a Postie. That they actually thought they HAD got a good deal. And we were further let down by the majority who voted for it. I wonder how few of them still think they made the right decision?
Methinks they didn't read it properly (again!).....

[PostieWithTheMostie!]

So if they're so out of date with us - shouldn't we be allowed to sue the Union and reclaim our money that we lost by striking.. Cause i've lost out on wages hoping that the Union would make a difference - how wrong was i / us, plus now i'm losing £20 every week.

[POSTMAN]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

It was YOU and the 100 odd thousand who got the £400 once the deal was in!

[dvbuk55]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

It was YOU and the 100 odd thousand who got the £400 once the deal was in!

You mean the 400 back hander we would have got anyway round about NOW.

[POSTMAN]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

It was YOU and the 100 odd thousand who got the £400 once the deal was in!

You mean the 400 back hander we would have got anyway round about NOW.

Yeah,i know that,you know that,RMC members know that,but did everyone else.

[dvbuk55]

Somebody in the Union must've got a nice little back~hander to accept this 2010 Agreement.

It was YOU and the 100 odd thousand who got the £400 once the deal was in!

You mean the 400 back hander we would have got anyway round about NOW.

Yeah,i know that,you know that,RMC members know that,but did everyone else.

Well I don't really know pmn, do you think it was mentioned at all on the three ringed circus tour - I mean did Dave stand up and say "As soon as the deal is in, you are going to get the £400 you are going to get anyway", did he mention that it was pro-rata even though it was suggested in the documentation that it was across the board, did he mention that the 39 hour week hadn't been finalised in detail and that it could take three years to achieve and it may not be an hour from a single day ......................... well I just bet he didn't, but then I wasn't there and neither was the vast majority of the voters.

[POSTMAN]

Tbf DV,it's in the agreement,BUT the pro rata as you know wasn't.
And i know that you are going to next say ,well how many got a copy of the agreement,but we've been there on that one.

But tbf,Dave did mention at the London reps meeting that the agreement was on 'some website' before it officially got published

[dvbuk55]

Tbf DV,it's in the agreement,BUT the pro rata as you know wasn't.
And i know that you are going to next say ,well how many got a copy of the agreement,but we've been there on that one.

But tbf,Dave did mention at the London reps meeting that the agreement was on 'some website' before it officially got published

But tbf to who? the London reps? FFS this man represents over 100,000 communication workers and he mentioned it to the London reps, and no copy to the members and therefore no explanatory notes........................................... and people wonder why people are leaving the union.

[POSTMAN]

Tbf DV,it's in the agreement,BUT the pro rata as you know wasn't.
And i know that you are going to next say ,well how many got a copy of the agreement,but we've been there on that one.

But tbf,Dave did mention at the London reps meeting that the agreement was on 'some website' before it officially got published

But tbf to who? the London reps? FFS this man represents over 100,000 communication workers and he mentioned it to the London reps, and no copy to the members and therefore no explanatory notes........................................... and people wonder why people are leaving the union.

I was actually taking the piss out of Ward lol.

Just wondering to anyone who will listen,did any of their reps (apart from Big Daz) leave out copies of the agreement for their colleagues to look at?
Oh and ftr mine didn't!

[dvbuk55]

Tbf DV,it's in the agreement,BUT the pro rata as you know wasn't.
And i know that you are going to next say ,well how many got a copy of the agreement,but we've been there on that one.

But tbf,Dave did mention at the London reps meeting that the agreement was on 'some website' before it officially got published

But tbf to who? the London reps? FFS this man represents over 100,000 communication workers and he mentioned it to the London reps, and no copy to the members and therefore no explanatory notes........................................... and people wonder why people are leaving the union.

I was actually taking the piss out of Ward lol.

Just wondering to anyone who will listen,did any of their reps (apart from Big Daz) leave out copies of the agreement for their colleagues to look at?
Oh and ftr mine didn't!

Our branch voted NO BUT that went against the grain for all but the local IR Reps who saw the deal and didn't like it, a copy was posted in our office but I couldn't say that was the case in every office. The Area and Div Reps wanted a yes vote - no need to guess why. We asked the Area/Div Reps for a meeting but they refused saying if we had made our mind up there was no point discussing it - everywhere isn't the same you see.

I would like to see a breakdown Area by Area of those members of the CWU who think they are well represented above local level, how often they see anyone other than their own rep, how much information is passed down to local level.

[dblad]

As a business they have a right 'within reason' to do what they want with THEIR business,just like you would with YOUR business.

Just a little point on this POSTMAN, this business is owned by the Government, so effectively this is our business.