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Van Share!.

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Pinky 1
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by Pinky 1 »

fishtank wrote:
Pat Ostman wrote:
No, 2 :cool
Now why would a non-driver agree to sign out a set of keys for a van he cannot drive. :crazy:
No thanks i'll pass. :chuckle
That's easy ft, if he gets back to the van first and it's pissing down, he's got somewhere to shelter :chuckle
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by Pat Ostman »

Pinky is correct, the van driver signs for the van of which 2 keys are made available.
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by fishtank »

Pat Ostman wrote:Pinky is correct, the van driver signs for the van of which 2 keys are made available.
Then i would suggest that whoever signs for the van would be ultimately responsible for it's security regardless of how many keys are signed out.
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by POSTMAN »

Pat Ostman wrote:Maybe they should redo BlackAdder goes forth?
[POSTMAN is informed that a Royal Mail spy is stealing secret CWU battle plans]

General Slocombe: You look surprised, POSTMAN.
Captain POSTMAN: I certainly am, sir. I didn't realise we had any battle plans.
General Slocombe: Well, of course we have! How else do you think the CWU battles are directed?
Captain POSTMAN: Our battles are directed, sir?
General Slocombe: Well, of course they are, POSTMAN, directed according to the Grand Plan.
Captain POSTMAN: Would that be the plan to continue with total exhaustion until everyone's dead except Field Marshal Billy Hayes, Lady Hayes and their tortoise, Ward?
General Slocombe: Great Scott! Even you know it!
I wanna be Rear Admiral! :nervous

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Re: Van Share!.

Post by dvbuk55 »

Pat Ostman wrote:Pinky is correct, the van driver signs for the van of which 2 keys are made available.
Right you are there are two sets of keys issued to the driver of the vehicle who then hands a set to his navigator who will use them to shelter take a break store his bags, etc - but only the signatory is responsible for that vehicle for all matters of security, health and safety, speeding, parking et al.
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by dvbuk55 »

POSTMAN wrote:
Pat Ostman wrote:Maybe they should redo BlackAdder goes forth?
[POSTMAN is informed that a Royal Mail spy is stealing secret CWU battle plans]

General Slocombe: You look surprised, POSTMAN.
Captain POSTMAN: I certainly am, sir. I didn't realise we had any battle plans.
General Slocombe: Well, of course we have! How else do you think the CWU battles are directed?
Captain POSTMAN: Our battles are directed, sir?
General Slocombe: Well, of course they are, POSTMAN, directed according to the Grand Plan.
Captain POSTMAN: Would that be the plan to continue with total exhaustion until everyone's dead except Field Marshal Billy Hayes, Lady Hayes and their tortoise, Ward?
General Slocombe: Great Scott! Even you know it!
I wanna be Rear Admiral! :nervous

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Re: Van Share!.

Post by NewPostieUK »

Does the non-driver get trained in the use of keys? And if he doesn't want to use those keys, what then?
axeman
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by axeman »

and thats a good idea lets have them both responsible for the van :crazy: so who gets the parking fines and speeding tickets ? because the law says if you have a set of keys then your in charge of that vehicle so in reality the non driver has to be tea total otherwise he could be nicked for driving whilst under the influence (if he or she has an inclination for a tipple) even just sitting in the van waiting for his buddy many have fallen foul of the law whov'e gone into the back of a car to sleep it off
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by Flashman_ »

How are they going to get people to drive these vans anyway?
There was nothing in my contract about having to drive vans! My Driving licence was paid for by me for my personal use, I don`t want the extra responsibility of these vans(especially as they will not pay us to drive)
pickaname
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by pickaname »

Its easy to get this thrown out.

Everyone in your office comes together and decides not to volunteer to drive. Refuse to take part in the preference exercise.
They cant force you to drive and if they dont know if you can or not what can they say? They have no right to know if you hold a license.

My office is so pissed off with this crappy agreement its already planning to boycott this crap.

Lets see CDV's get rolled out then eh?

Now if RM paid for my lessons/tests that might change my mind.... :Very Happy
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by fishtank »

pickaname wrote:Its easy to get this thrown out.

Everyone in your office comes together and decides not to volunteer to drive. Refuse to take part in the preference exercise.
They cant force you to drive and if they dont know if you can or not what can they say? They have no right to know if you hold a license.

My office is so pissed off with this crappy agreement its already planning to boycott this crap.

Lets see CDV's get rolled out then eh?

Now if RM paid for my lessons/tests that might change my mind.... :Very Happy
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by spoodoo »

We got told we have 3 choices 1. van driver 2.posty in a van 3. use a trolley ,,,,,, so this is the best the royal mail can come up with after years???????// relying on crap junk mail for its profits , well done the big bosses for coming up with this! WHAT A MESS THEYVE MADE OF THIS COMPANY! OH AND WHERE THEY GONNA GET ALL THESE DRIVERS FROM ?
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by SWIM »

how to make a simple job complicated. :roll:
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by gb93 »

How about a jet pack each does that need a driving licence
A set of roller skates do they need a driving licence
What's the problem with sharing/driving a van it gets rid of weight on delivery(apparantly)and gets rid of pcod all things that people constantly moan about
I am sure some people just moan for moaning sake.
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Re: Van Share!.

Post by stokes11eg »

:shock: Truly--they have not thought this thing out well at all. I can see problems arising when they couple team up guys and gals---what.s your bets somewhere along the line accusations of sexual harrassment creep in. Ditto being teamed up with someone who you know is on the booze or drugs.