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[flaminmoses]

It looks like a lot of people do NOT believe in a democracy like it or not the deal has gone through by 2 to 1. Think it is pathetic that people on here who did not get what they wanted, straight away want to leave the Union.

democracy is outdated.
you vote to let someone else decide the true outcome.

the union have bawlsed up here bigtime.
hope they pay a high price.

[fishtank]

Shimy un-less your reps been involved with what your DIM has done you do realise hes done this by executive action and if i were you contact your branch asap but first speak to your rep.

MoNkEyBoY you're a decent,honest bloke but it's over now mate.
You will now get absolutely feckin nowhere bitching over EA.
RM now have what they always wanted and could not care less about interim agreements,new relationships or......you.

[Exrep]

Shimy Understand mate your feelings ive got a meeting this week over a disagreement matter and i just wont to go in there and say FECK YOU do what you want .Got my area rep and SOM attending not a good week to have this.

Fish agree with you whole heartidly it is the end of the cwu whether people want to face up to that thats there business. R/M can now do as they please to us.

[capricorn]

Thats it, I can see no reason to support a union that is not going to protect me or the job.
If this is the best "Fat cat Billy" can do he will be suited to joining all the the slimy toads in Westminster.
£12 a month better off, it would take over £12 a week to even approach break-even point on this deal.
I just hope there is a good EVR package waiting in the wings.


“We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run down.”

Aneurin Bevan quotes (Welsh Politician, 1897-1960)

[qwert]

Thats it, I can see no reason to support a union that is not going to protect me or the job.
If this is the best "Fat cat Billy" can do he will be suited to joining all the the slimy toads in Westminster.
£12 a month better off, it would take over £12 a week to even approach break-even point on this deal.
I just hope there is a good EVR package waiting in the wings.


“We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run down.”

Aneurin Bevan quotes (Welsh Politician, 1897-1960)

C.W.U =could not care less for the workers union.

[jaja]

Thats it, I can see no reason to support a union that is not going to protect me or the job.
If this is the best "Fat cat Billy" can do he will be suited to joining all the the slimy toads in Westminster.
£12 a month better off, it would take over £12 a week to even approach break-even point on this deal.
I just hope there is a good EVR package waiting in the wings.


“We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run down.”

Aneurin Bevan quotes (Welsh Politician, 1897-1960)

C.W.U =could not care less for the workers union.

Thats the way lads make it even easier

[KilliePostie]

i'm hoping there are some decent EVR provisions cos there's simply no way i can work the hours that are going to be asked of me.

luckily my wife works for a company that actually cares for it's employees, pays well and just gave her a good raise out of the blue (nearly 8% fwiw) as well as having a fair bonus scheme so we could afford me to take a package and go.

[BIG MICK]

monkey boy, if i raise this, then i will be head hunted, just like the other 10 whove been given the heave ho inn the last year, im out the union as of, about 1500 hours, im not getting involved mate- sorry, i will leave it to the shite- houses who voted yes, or didnt vote, or those who work for free -coming in 45 mins early- or those who take there cars out, or the ones whove prepped there election stuff at home in there own time- etcetera etcetera etcetera- thats what im up against mate- sorry - was up against.

Yes Shimmy.. I used to take issue with a lot of the shite that goes on at RM - but now I just let it flow over my head.

I come in on my time, never use a Car, leave the office at 10 regardless of mail volumes, work my hours and get off home. If there is too much on, I drop a bag.
That's it for me.. no subs, no issues... plain and simple. Whatever issues others have, I don't get involved.

[red eric]

Will the last person to leave the union please turn out the lights,thank you

[had-enough]

0845 6060 603

and just tell them you want to stop your CWU subscription.

Took 2 mins.

Job done.

well done mate

I have supported unions all my working life and tnhey get worse. As for defending yoursledf in case of grief ......simple...dont get grief cos union wont help. Go it alone use google for advice. I am phoning number to come out too and save myself some money seeing as poxy cwu and its "skilled" my arris negotoaters have voted all posties a pay drop. grade A w*****s

[krussel]

This is a sad day for the CWU for which ever way i look at it i feel they have SOLD OUT.

We told them we did not want to deliver D2D every day of the week and we made it clear that we certainly did not want to work to 2pm on a Sat. It appears they simply gave up and took what was on the table without trying to address these issues and offer us another choice. (And yes there is ALWAYS another choice)

At the moment I cannot see anything positive out of the deal which out weighs the negative side. To me it looks like another step towards privatisation and minimum wages for all.

I am going to stick paying the Union not because I think they have succeeded in achieving the best deal possible but I can foresee my level of sickness increasing with the longer delivery span and I am most likely going to need the back up of a local rep when I attend my stage warnings.


CWU.

[bunkerland]

The votes not too difficult to understand.

You've got ten people,you offer six of them a rise by taking money away from the remaining four,you get them all to vote on it and guess what? 60% to 40% maybe!

I understand why people voted yes,but for those of you who did,please don't try to tell us we've got a good deal or that the result of the vote is "fair"!

If you believe that everyone just voted on the issue of money, then you have a very small opinion of human nature.

Oh sorry,yes i did presume they voted for it because of the money. What other reasons were there,was it the longer Saturdays or the unspecified delivery spans ?

Job security, attendance patterns with more days off (not everyone is bothered about saturdays, a bit longer saturday for an extra day off my suit some).
Workshops assessing workloads.
Change by agreement.
Weight off the shoulder.
I suppose there are more but there you go.....

Oh come now,you're already scraping the bottom of the barrel with your "workshops assessing workloads" and "change by agreement"! It's Walter Mitty stuff i'm afraid,mere talking shops for the hard of thinking. Do you really think that's why people voted yes?

"Weight off the shoulder"? I can't see how agreeing to unlimited d2d provides that ,or are you pinning your hopes on the inefficient,cost soaring,farcical concept of van sharing to provide it?

Your trump card i guess is "job security",announced with no reasoning or explanation to back it up,it's like just saying the words beats all arguments. I can't see any reason this agreement provides any more than we had before!

[banner18]

The votes not too difficult to understand.

You've got ten people,you offer six of them a rise by taking money away from the remaining four,you get them all to vote on it and guess what? 60% to 40% maybe!

I understand why people voted yes,but for those of you who did,please don't try to tell us we've got a good deal or that the result of the vote is "fair"!

If you believe that everyone just voted on the issue of money, then you have a very small opinion of human nature.

Oh sorry,yes i did presume they voted for it because of the money. What other reasons were there,was it the longer Saturdays or the unspecified delivery spans ?

Job security, attendance patterns with more days off (not everyone is bothered about saturdays, a bit longer saturday for an extra day off my suit some).
Workshops assessing workloads.
Change by agreement.
Weight off the shoulder.
I suppose there are more but there you go.....

Oh come now,you're already scraping the bottom of the barrel with your "workshops assessing workloads" and "change by agreement"! It's Walter Mitty stuff i'm afraid,mere talking shops for the hard of thinking. Do you really think that's why people voted yes?

"Weight off the shoulder"? I can't see how agreeing to unlimited d2d provides that ,or are you pinning your hopes on the inefficient,cost soaring,farcical concept of van sharing to provide it?

Your trump card i guess is "job security",announced with no reasoning or explanation to back it up,it's like just saying the words beats all arguments. I can't see any reason this agreement provides any more than we had before!

The fact is, whatever the negative aspects of the agreement are, it is a plan. It is a way of moving forward for all and dealing with the reality of DSA and liberalization. Is your plan to go on strike until the government outlaws DSA? Do you think that the status quo is tenable? Do you want RM to turn back to the working practices of ten years ago?
The fact is that RM has to turn a healthy profit to remain viable. DSA etc.. is being used to beat RM down so that they are forced to modernize working practices in line with most modern companies.
The other option would be for RM to slash wages, but this would not be helping RM to become a modern company using machinery and all resources to their fullest.
It surely is about looking at the bigger picture here. If other industries had not gone through modernization programmes, the economy would not be able to support the wage levels that exist now across the board for all workers, which we as well enjoy.

[coxie]

wish we had BA's union they dont take no bullshit

[BELIAL]

This is why your pay and pensions will continue to be cut year in year out

The fact is that RM has to turn a healthy profit to remain viable.

to support the wage levels that exist now across the board for all workers, which we as well enjoy.

Doing you a favour paying you f**k all really,you ungrateful bastards