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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
PatchesNY wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Clytiau, Fel rhywun sydd ag egwyddorion uchel o'r fath mae'n eironig efallai, fel eich barn chi, "Rydw i'n byw ym Mryste, fy nghyflogi ym Mryste ac rwy'n rhan Bryste CWU", Bryste fod yn ddinas, yn fwy nag eraill, ei hadeiladu ar yr elw y fasnach gaethweision ac yn un y mae llawer iawn meddwl y byddai pobl yn cadw ymhell oddi wrth.
I wonder how this post complies with the forum rules of only using English?

Or is it one rule for one and an entirely separate one for someone else?
पैच.
नहीं, नहीं, यह एक और किसी और के लिए एक पूरी तरह से अलग से एक के लिए एक नियम है, यह हम सभी के लिए एक नियम है यहाँ पर हम में से प्रत्येक व्यक्तिगत या नहीं तय करने के लिए नियमों का पालन करने के साथ नहीं है, और है कि यह isn कैसे होना चाहिए 'टी है?
वैसे भी, शादी करने के एक फ़ीजी में होना चाहिए पर जाकर ससुराल - कैसे सुवा में एक सप्ताह इतना हो एक हफ्ते से बेहतर होगा कार्डिफ में नहीं कहा, कि मैं वेल्स या वेल्श, मेरी सबसे अच्छी में से कुछ के खिलाफ कुछ भी मिल गया है की एक बोनस वेल्श जा रहा है वास्तव में मित्र, लेकिन यह है कि मैं कार्डिफ में एक सप्ताह के अंत खर्च दो साल पहले, और मैं नहीं जो जल्दी वहाँ बदले में हूँ, मेरा मतलब है क्या दूसरे राजधानी उच्च स्ट्रीट चिपचिपा मनोरंजन केंद्र, सट्टेबाजों, ऊपर सवार की विशेषता है परिसर और दान की दुकानों?
charity shops is characteristic of riding? :left: :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm
Methinks you use an inferior translation site that somehow makes my "I mean which other capital city's High Street is full of amusement centes, bookies, boarded up premises and charity shops ?" into "I mean what other capital sticky High Street Recreation Center, bookmakers, up premises and charity shops is characteristic of riding?" :crazy: The first half of my message will sadly probably be simmilarily misunderstood. :sad:
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
PatchesNY wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Clytiau, Fel rhywun sydd ag egwyddorion uchel o'r fath mae'n eironig efallai, fel eich barn chi, "Rydw i'n byw ym Mryste, fy nghyflogi ym Mryste ac rwy'n rhan Bryste CWU", Bryste fod yn ddinas, yn fwy nag eraill, ei hadeiladu ar yr elw y fasnach gaethweision ac yn un y mae llawer iawn meddwl y byddai pobl yn cadw ymhell oddi wrth.
I wonder how this post complies with the forum rules of only using English?

Or is it one rule for one and an entirely separate one for someone else?
पैच.
नहीं, नहीं, यह एक और किसी और के लिए एक पूरी तरह से अलग से एक के लिए एक नियम है, यह हम सभी के लिए एक नियम है यहाँ पर हम में से प्रत्येक व्यक्तिगत या नहीं तय करने के लिए नियमों का पालन करने के साथ नहीं है, और है कि यह isn कैसे होना चाहिए 'टी है?
वैसे भी, शादी करने के एक फ़ीजी में होना चाहिए पर जाकर ससुराल - कैसे सुवा में एक सप्ताह इतना हो एक हफ्ते से बेहतर होगा कार्डिफ में नहीं कहा, कि मैं वेल्स या वेल्श, मेरी सबसे अच्छी में से कुछ के खिलाफ कुछ भी मिल गया है की एक बोनस वेल्श जा रहा है वास्तव में मित्र, लेकिन यह है कि मैं कार्डिफ में एक सप्ताह के अंत खर्च दो साल पहले, और मैं नहीं जो जल्दी वहाँ बदले में हूँ, मेरा मतलब है क्या दूसरे राजधानी उच्च स्ट्रीट चिपचिपा मनोरंजन केंद्र, सट्टेबाजों, ऊपर सवार की विशेषता है परिसर और दान की दुकानों?
charity shops is characteristic of riding? :left: :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm
I think my hindi is letting me down in my old age. :sad:
What I meant to say was
"Patches.
No, no, it's not one rule for one and an entirely separate one for someone else, it's one rule for all of us on here with each of us individually deciding whether or not to abide by the rules, and that's how it should be isn't it ?
Anyway, a bonus of marrying a Fijian must be visiting the in-laws - how a week in Suva must be so much better than a week say in Cardiff, not that I've got anything against Wales or the Welsh, some of my best friends in fact being Welsh, but it's just that I spent a weekend in Cardiff two years ago and I'm in no hurry whatsoever to return there, I mean what other capital city has a High Street featuring tacky amusement centres, bookies, boarded up premises and charity shops ?" :Very Happy
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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Got to agree in someway to the Cardiff thing, being a Splott boy myself.
All the cash seems to have gone into the "Bay" and other new-shiny stuff.
Now, there's a neglected look to other areas, hence the need for someone to try to improve things, for EVERYONE!
Visting my Dad there a short while ago, 3 local pubs have totally altered; 2 are flats. 1 standing empty. DISGRACEFUL, LOL !

Whoever wants to be voted in, and stick their head above the safety line to be shot at, good luck to 'em. They deserve it, whatever their Nationality/Creed/Race.
( I remember Centrepoint '70, the "BIG IDEA" to sort the City Centre out. It never happened...)
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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Thunderthighs wrote:Got to agree in someway to the Cardiff thing, being a Splott boy myself.
All the cash seems to have gone into the "Bay" and other new-shiny stuff.
Now, there's a neglected look to other areas, hence the need for someone to try to improve things, for EVERYONE!
Visting my Dad there a short while ago, 3 local pubs have totally altered; 2 are flats. 1 standing empty. DISGRACEFUL, LOL !

Whoever wants to be voted in, and stick their head above the safety line to be shot at, good luck to 'em. They deserve it, whatever their Nationality/Creed/Race.
( I remember Centrepoint '70, the "BIG IDEA" to sort the City Centre out. It never happened...)
That's right, the Vulcan being the only half decent pub anywhere near the city centre, and that's threatened with demolition when the area's redeveloped. :sad:
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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....the vote is in.

I hope the good ole Union who take money off us every month make a great big announcement with regard to the successful candidate.

I also hope it doesn't go unoticed that the attempt to gain votes by quoting a birthplace and belittling your opposition only results in failure.

Congratulations to the winning candidate - the best "man" won.

Cheers
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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PatchesNY wrote:....the vote is in.

Congratulations to the winning candidate - the best "man" won.
Sexist!! :so there

:chuckle
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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Despite there being lots of communication sent by the former Union Rep who has now been ousted everything seems to be very quiet. It seems peculiar that a Rep can send unsolicited mail that offends so many people, then the Union send members a letter stating the claims made by the ousted Rep are lies, and complaints are made to CWU HQ....

Yet there has been no formal announcement made to congratulate the winning Rep on her landslide success...... and no communication about what happened to the former Rep.

Has she been given VR and a little push?
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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PatchesNY wrote:Despite there being lots of communication sent by the former Union Rep who has now been ousted everything seems to be very quiet. It seems peculiar that a Rep can send unsolicited mail that offends so many people, then the Union send members a letter stating the claims made by the ousted Rep are lies, and complaints are made to CWU HQ....

Yet there has been no formal announcement made to congratulate the winning Rep on her landslide success...... and no communication about what happened to the former Rep.

Has she been given VR and a little push?
Does it really matter that much?

Are you really that bothered?

Let it go. It's done. Over. The line in the sand is drawn etc etc.

Or are you out to destroy this person... :hmmmm
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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billyhayes wrote:
PatchesNY wrote:Despite there being lots of communication sent by the former Union Rep who has now been ousted everything seems to be very quiet. It seems peculiar that a Rep can send unsolicited mail that offends so many people, then the Union send members a letter stating the claims made by the ousted Rep are lies, and complaints are made to CWU HQ....

Yet there has been no formal announcement made to congratulate the winning Rep on her landslide success...... and no communication about what happened to the former Rep.

Has she been given VR and a little push?
Does it really matter that much?

Are you really that bothered?

Let it go. It's done. Over. The line in the sand is drawn etc etc.

Or are you out to destroy this person... :hmmmm
"destroy this person" ? Never met her.

Just wondering why nothing seems to have been done and why the Union are prepared to condone the shocking behaviour of this particular individual. If it was a manager and not a CWU rep I bet you'd have something to say and it would be all bad.

I wonder if the Union should consider leading by example?

Never mind....
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Wake up. The union, as well as POL, RM etc etc are all technically BANKRUPT.

Do you really think CWU HQ are going to do anything about this?

With the 2010 and beyond agreement vote, (yes or no result, it won't matter), practically spelling the end of the CWU, I think ALL eyes at Wimbledon are looking in a completely different direction to yours.

*The person you keep going on about is not a rep anymore.

*They are no longer a union 'official'.

*They are no longer tied down by the IR framework.

The above 3 points would be enough for the union to say, 'well, that's that.'

They are just someone who was shitting themselves to stay a rep and therefore didn't want to have to go back to doing whatever job they had to do before they were a rep; ie, postie, cash-centre, counters, driver, WHATEVER, and so resorted to the tactics they used. Do I support it? NO... but I UNDERSTAND why they did it.

'Cos it was the final desperate act.
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Re: Bristol CWU promoting RACISM & it's in writing.

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billyhayes wrote:Wake up. The union, as well as POL, RM etc etc are all technically BANKRUPT.

Do you really think CWU HQ are going to do anything about this?

With the 2010 and beyond agreement vote, (yes or no result, it won't matter), practically spelling the end of the CWU, I think ALL eyes at Wimbledon are looking in a completely different direction to yours.

*The person you keep going on about is not a rep anymore.

*They are no longer a union 'official'.

*They are no longer tied down by the IR framework.

The above 3 points would be enough for the union to say, 'well, that's that.'

They are just someone who was shitting themselves to stay a rep and therefore didn't want to have to go back to doing whatever job they had to do before they were a rep; ie, postie, cash-centre, counters, driver, WHATEVER, and so resorted to the tactics they used. Do I support it? NO... but I UNDERSTAND why they did it.

'Cos it was the final desperate act.
Fair enough, I understand.

My sister is a counters girl and I'm a postie. I've never met or even heard of the girl who sent me a poster telling me that I should vote for her as she is Welsh and recommended by a local CWU branch. She stated the other candidate was "inferior" which I thought was an unprofessional statement to make, but as I've never met either of them I don't know. Interestingly the branch she claimed recommended her then sent their members a letter stating they hadn't.

All of this seems very strange to me. In my own office respect for the Union is lower than I have ever known it. I've been a RM employee for 17 years and I've never known there be so little respect for the Union and it's opinions. Many times I've heard my colleagues state they would be better off by £15 a month if they quit the CWU as they feel it's a waste of £15 when they are already in a no overtime situation, or on lower money in general.

It seems from my sister's office that the ousted rep is known to some people from many years ago when she was also a counter clerk, she is an example of why members and colleagues feel the way they do about the Union. They feel as the ousted rep has a reputation of sh*gging everything in sight that counters are better of without her. Apparently they are of the impression she only got a Union job in the first place as she was sh*gging someone (he's not a name I'm familiar with but he's known to counters). Apparently she only sent out her poster to the local branch as she has moved on to sh*gging someone there who gave her members addresses. Don't know the girl, her history or anything about her but considering the paying members low opinion of the Union in general I feel it's about time a stand was made. Perhaps the Union should consider moving all the people who shouldn't be involved in representation out. Only professional, dedicated and worthwhile people should be involved.

A big shake up of Union roles might make a difference and help us lead this failing company in a way forward.
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Reason: Name removed as it broke the rules - BTW that name is very well known in Union circles so please do not repeat it as an unsubstantiated rumour like that could get us closed down real quick.
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Good post. And what a DIRTY girl she sounds! :nana
I am intrigued...

Just to give you the heads up, careful on the use of names as they could go after you for defamation of character. No joke. :silenced
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billyhayes wrote:Good post. And what a DIRTY girl she sounds! :nana
I am intrigued...

Just to give you the heads up, careful on the use of names as they could go after you for defamation of character. No joke. :silenced
Good Spot - I have amended the post :shock:

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Everyone please remember unless both the information and the name concerned are known publicly, and where possible with an active link to the source, names must not be mentioned in any posts, ever.
But what about her address?
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clashcityrocker wrote: But what about her address?
Oooh you are awful... but I like you!! :chuckle