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RM must give us rogue managers' heads
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heathrow86
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Correct me if I am wrong, but did'nt the "interim"agreement say something about having an independant enquiry into managers bullying staff? Obviously got forgotten in the negotiations!!
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smokerjim
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Why not get ACAS ( as RM & CWU were happy for them to be the neutral mediator during talks ) to review all grievences over, say, the last 5 years where no further action was taken / mgr given a slap on the wrist ( in all cases, ACAS could start by asking the employee and / or the rep that put the grievence in - if they are happy with the action taken, then it goes no further ) and if ACAS recommened further action, then it MUST be taken - although, IIRC, you can't legally reduce someone's basic wage, so sadly it'd be a waste of time regrading them as OPGs....but give them a blue shirt & a pouch, call them PHGs and remove them from the bonus scheme.
Some might counter with arguements about cost ( ACAS won't do it for nowt ), but IF RM is serious about "building trust between RM, CWU & employees", this would be a clear show of commitment.
Some might counter with arguements about cost ( ACAS won't do it for nowt ), but IF RM is serious about "building trust between RM, CWU & employees", this would be a clear show of commitment.
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
but IF RM is serious about "building trust between RM, CWU & employees"
Typo ? surely that should read "trussed"
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
"Let those without sin cast the first stone"
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Hamlet:
"Why, man, they did make love to this employment,
They are not near my conscience. Their defeat
Does by their own insinuation grow."
Hamlet Act 5, scene 2, 56–62
"Why, man, they did make love to this employment,
They are not near my conscience. Their defeat
Does by their own insinuation grow."
Hamlet Act 5, scene 2, 56–62
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
'Swinging chain means warm seat' 
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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rhino49
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Swinging DOM means the revolution has startedPOSTMAN wrote:'Swinging chain means warm seat'
We wish to serve - but we will not be servile
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
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Eddie Izzard as well I think.
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
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andy2007
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Now, THAT'S a good idea! I'd vote for that!!!!!smokerjim wrote:Why not get ACAS ( as RM & CWU were happy for them to be the neutral mediator during talks ) to review all grievences over, say, the last 5 years where no further action was taken / mgr given a slap on the wrist ( in all cases, ACAS could start by asking the employee and / or the rep that put the grievence in - if they are happy with the action taken, then it goes no further ) and if ACAS recommened further action, then it MUST be taken - although, IIRC, you can't legally reduce someone's basic wage, so sadly it'd be a waste of time regrading them as OPGs....but give them a blue shirt & a pouch, call them PHGs and remove them from the bonus scheme.
Some might counter with arguements about cost ( ACAS won't do it for nowt ), but IF RM is serious about "building trust between RM, CWU & employees", this would be a clear show of commitment.
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mucker
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
you must be fecking joking,the promote them insteadRM should prove its good intentions by dismissing rogue managers.
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
Is that a quote from some bleeding heart liberal, that got what was coming to him?rhino49 wrote:"Let those without sin cast the first stone"
When the Power of Love, overcomes the Love of Power, then the world will know peace.
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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Re: RM must give us rogue managers' heads
SJ is that a quote from Bill Hickssmokerjim wrote:Is that a quote from some bleeding heart liberal, that got what was coming to him?rhino49 wrote:"Let those without sin cast the first stone"I think Jimi Hendrix was on the money when he said
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