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Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
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pickaname
- Posts: 1467
- Joined: 11 Sep 2007, 20:24
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Were now getting 4.2p x double d2d drops.
Theyre saying they cant be counted accurately so theyre just doubling the amount of d2d drop points.
Not sure this is fair.
On the one hand were going to eery house so why pay us twice (or sometimes 5 or more) for one drop.
On the other the agreement states per item so this is what we should be getting?
Someone has written a number on each bundle. Is this the no. of items per bundle or per walk?
If its per walk then were quids in, if not were being short changed.
This is EXACTLY what scares me about the new agreement and Im afraid to say the nature of things to come.
Nothing is concrete in the new agreement - its mostly speculation and interpretation and will be abused, just like this election material agreement is being abused.. This is why Royal Mail is in dire straits.
Welcome to modernisation. Where no one really knows what theyre doing.
Theyre saying they cant be counted accurately so theyre just doubling the amount of d2d drop points.
Not sure this is fair.
On the one hand were going to eery house so why pay us twice (or sometimes 5 or more) for one drop.
On the other the agreement states per item so this is what we should be getting?
Someone has written a number on each bundle. Is this the no. of items per bundle or per walk?
If its per walk then were quids in, if not were being short changed.
This is EXACTLY what scares me about the new agreement and Im afraid to say the nature of things to come.
Nothing is concrete in the new agreement - its mostly speculation and interpretation and will be abused, just like this election material agreement is being abused.. This is why Royal Mail is in dire straits.
Welcome to modernisation. Where no one really knows what theyre doing.
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gb93
- Posts: 1462
- Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 16:25
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Seems quite clear doesnt it.
Now why are members not being paid, or at very least being told by DOMS that they are not getting a payment for election material.
It is in black & white for pete's sake, and it is being ignored.
WHAT CHANCE HAVE WE GOT WITH 2010 & BEYOND.
Oh i forgot Roger Poole and ACAS
Now why are members not being paid, or at very least being told by DOMS that they are not getting a payment for election material.
It is in black & white for pete's sake, and it is being ignored.
WHAT CHANCE HAVE WE GOT WITH 2010 & BEYOND.
Oh i forgot Roger Poole and ACAS
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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Big Daz
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- Joined: 17 Apr 2007, 20:27
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
pickaname
My manager said do a rough count, so thats what Ive done.
Shame my maths is crap, oh well RML will be paying me a couple of grand then
My manager said do a rough count, so thats what Ive done.
Shame my maths is crap, oh well RML will be paying me a couple of grand then
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gb93
- Posts: 1462
- Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 16:25
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Yeah Big Daz off the members who have been paid nothing
I know, i presume you were being light hearted making light of the situation, a little light relief.
But members are being conned and that is not a laughing matter for them.
But i suppose thats ok "winners & losers" right
I know, i presume you were being light hearted making light of the situation, a little light relief.
But members are being conned and that is not a laughing matter for them.
But i suppose thats ok "winners & losers" right
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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Big Daz
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- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
gb93 wrote:Yeah Big Daz off the members who have been paid nothing![]()
I know, i presume you were being light hearted making light of the situation, a little light relief.
But members are being conned and that is not a laughing matter for them.
But i suppose thats ok "winners & losers" right
Of course its not OK,Im not making light of the situation at all the only situation Im making light of is mine
What Im interested in knowing is, are the reps been made aware and if local/area RML have challnged by the local/area CWU, for a clear 100% breach of agreement.
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Stormproof
- Posts: 6116
- Joined: 07 Jul 2007, 21:03
- Gender: Female
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Got back after delivery to find someone putting out addressed Lib Dem stuff. I asked how much and was told 3p per item, is that the rate?
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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Pinky 1
- Posts: 1510
- Joined: 01 Mar 2009, 11:38
- Gender: Male
- Location: Wales
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
That's the minimum rate Stormy, and that's what we get ...Stormproof wrote:Got back after delivery to find someone putting out addressed Lib Dem stuff. I asked how much and was told 3p per item, is that the rate?
"Cara yn bod 'n briod , dydy 'n fawr at ca a hun 'n anad berson a 'ch angen at blina achos 'r bwyso chan 'ch buchedd "
" I like being married,, it's great to find that one special person you want to bother for the rest of your life "
" I like being married,, it's great to find that one special person you want to bother for the rest of your life "
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johnnyrocker
- Posts: 42
- Joined: 17 Feb 2010, 19:01
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Ive been nominated
to look after the Election material at my office. The First lot of polling cards come in just over 2 weeks ago.In envelopes put them all to one side and got the delivery officers to count em. Put the payment through myself today. On the O/T application there is now a drop down box for election payments. All parties and polling cards are on there.
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silverback
- Posts: 166
- Joined: 02 Sep 2008, 18:08
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Got polling cards 2day. Came as DSA. Told NO PAYMENT for these as DSA items, and have to be delivered the day they arrive in office. Produced the national agreement for DOM. He checked with his DSM, I checked with CWU area rep. CWU area rep says RM are correct. If DSA = no payment and delivered on same day. What is the point of National Agreements when its in black and white, plain as day, crystal clear but still ignored by RM and CWU at area level. There is no hope for our future if this is anything to go by.
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Pinky 1
- Posts: 1510
- Joined: 01 Mar 2009, 11:38
- Gender: Male
- Location: Wales
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
This can't be right ....a lot of our's were DSA and we got paid for them, and spread over three days ....silverback wrote:Got polling cards 2day. Came as DSA. Told NO PAYMENT for these as DSA items, and have to be delivered the day they arrive in office. Produced the national agreement for DOM. He checked with his DSM, I checked with CWU area rep. CWU area rep says RM are correct. If DSA = no payment and delivered on same day. What is the point of National Agreements when its in black and white, plain as day, crystal clear but still ignored by RM and CWU at area level. There is no hope for our future if this is anything to go by.
"Cara yn bod 'n briod , dydy 'n fawr at ca a hun 'n anad berson a 'ch angen at blina achos 'r bwyso chan 'ch buchedd "
" I like being married,, it's great to find that one special person you want to bother for the rest of your life "
" I like being married,, it's great to find that one special person you want to bother for the rest of your life "
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Steviea34
- Posts: 474
- Joined: 10 Apr 2009, 10:44
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
DSA (NEED TO BE WALKSORT THOUGH) will attract a single unit paymentPinky 1 wrote:This can't be right ....a lot of our's were DSA and we got paid for them, and spread over three days ....silverback wrote:Got polling cards 2day. Came as DSA. Told NO PAYMENT for these as DSA items, and have to be delivered the day they arrive in office. Produced the national agreement for DOM. He checked with his DSM, I checked with CWU area rep. CWU area rep says RM are correct. If DSA = no payment and delivered on same day. What is the point of National Agreements when its in black and white, plain as day, crystal clear but still ignored by RM and CWU at area level. There is no hope for our future if this is anything to go by.
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silverback
- Posts: 166
- Joined: 02 Sep 2008, 18:08
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Pinky..Can u pm me your do location so I can pass this info up to area level please.
Cheers
Cheers
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silverback
- Posts: 166
- Joined: 02 Sep 2008, 18:08
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
Steviea34... Our poll cards came DSA walksorted. What do u mean by "
DSA (NEED TO BE WALKSORT THOUGH) will attract a single unit payment"?
DSA (NEED TO BE WALKSORT THOUGH) will attract a single unit payment"?
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wingmanchillian
- Posts: 125
- Joined: 28 Sep 2009, 15:58
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
ours came in 1st + 2nd told no payment as its under discussion even after showing them the agreement, haven't been able to get hold of area rep since the proposal came out... my office is not a happy place to work atm 
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Steviea34
- Posts: 474
- Joined: 10 Apr 2009, 10:44
- Gender: Male
Re: Has Bob Gibson met with RM yet over Election Payments.
If they arrived in walksort form, if DSA or not you would still be entitled to the unitsilverback wrote:Steviea34... Our poll cards came DSA walksorted. What do u mean by "
DSA (NEED TO BE WALKSORT THOUGH) will attract a single unit payment"?
payment