I am number six wrote:
But based on general feedback from DOMS, the majority are in agreement that job security is a priority
I am number six wrote:It’s the general feed back in our region, a request was made buy our Regional Director to assess the general feeling people had of the agreement
And I am not saying where as this will give too much away
However I am sure you can wait for the vote results to find out
So let me get this straight in my head.
Your Regional Director asked for feedback from DOMs on whether job security was a priority and the answer was.....yes.
He really earns his money that boy.
What next...Is water wet?
Royal Mail feedback on CWU ballots is pointless for a number of reasons.
Firstly they used the same feedback channels for the strike vote and predicted a 'NO' only for a big 'YES' to be returned.
Secondly DOMs are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to their bosses questioning their management so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............ A recomendation isnt worth the paper it's written on............
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lovejoy wrote:Royal Mail feedback on CWU ballots is pointless for a number of reasons.
Firstly they used the same feedback channels for the strike vote and predicted a 'NO' only for a big 'YES' to be returned.
Secondly DOMs are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to their bosses questioning their management so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
Is that right number six, did you predict a no vote for the ballot for the IA???
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............
If 99% of members in your branch vote no then I'll give you everything I own! Thats the trouble with this is everything we say is just our 'opinions' based on small snippets of the people we know.
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............
Well barometers can be wrong mucker.
Especially when they are being continually tampered with by HQ.
Lovejoy wrote
Secondly DOMs are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to their bosses questioning their management so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
I would suggest this accusation could also be levelled at branch and HQ.
Secondly Branches are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to HQ questioning their commitment so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............
If 99% of members in your branch vote no then I'll give you everything I own! Thats the trouble with this is everything we say is just our 'opinions' based on small snippets of the people we know.
The ballot result will reveal the facts
you may well be correct Lovejoy,take it as read this deal is not very popular.and that is puuting it mildly..............
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The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............
Are they all members?
plus people don't always vote the way they claim they will.
yes they are all members,and i take people on face value,if they lie so be it.....
There are people in our office who don't like the deal, but they are not members.
There are a lot of people in our office, who in my opinion will vote yes, they are not lying about it they are just not shouting it from the rooftops.
a request was made buy our Regional Director to assess the general feeling people had of the agreement
Perhaps the 'majority' might change their minds when they get their hands on the complete agreement.
I think you may find the majority of people will see job security as a number one factor after all the CWU and RMG have seen this as a primary concern
If that is the case then I wouldn't be voting for this agreement. There is absolutely NOTHING in this agreement that GUARANTEES job security - but hey if there is then please point it out - we would be grateful for any ray of sunshine.
lovejoy wrote:Royal Mail feedback on CWU ballots is pointless for a number of reasons.
Firstly they used the same feedback channels for the strike vote and predicted a 'NO' only for a big 'YES' to be returned.
Secondly DOMs are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to their bosses questioning their management so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
Is that right number six, did you predict a no vote for the ballot for the IA???
Time will tell Belle, but don't forget the views on this forum are a very small percentage in comparison of the whole of RMG and a national vote
And given, after reading through many many posts on this site seem to be a very minor militant few basically the same old few who oppose the agreement
Time will indeed tell, will it be similar to the outcome of the 2007 agreement??
The only barometer so far is the branch recommendations which are by far in favour of a 'YES'
our branch is recomending yes,however i speak to loads of members and 99% are voting NO............
Well barometers can be wrong mucker.
Especially when they are being continually tampered with by HQ.
Lovejoy wrote
Secondly DOMs are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to their bosses questioning their management so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
I would suggest this accusation could also be levelled at branch and HQ.
Secondly Branches are reluctant to tell the truth. For them to report that people are voting no to this agreement would lead to HQ questioning their commitment so its easier to paint a rosy picture.
I think your point that the branches are painting a rosy picture is completely false. I've yet to meet one cwu official who has painted a rosy picture. Most think the vote will be close and most branches have recommended a yes vote because they feel that the deal is the best one that will be achieved for a number of reasons.
