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lies or the truth?

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Re: lies or the truth?

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belle smith wrote:
superfox wrote:If we normally start between 5am and 6am, and we then went to 10 hour days starting at 4am would we keep our ESA?
You aint going to get 4am starts. even with the sequencing machines based at your DO.
In fact if you have feeder offices its more likely to make your start times later.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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I don't mine the later starts and later finishes, but I won't vote for a pay cut.. so no ESA means a no vote
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superfox wrote:I don't mine the later starts and later finishes, but I won't vote for a pay cut.. so no ESA means a no vote
Your ESA money is kinda dependant on the early starts.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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belle smith wrote:
Big Daz wrote:You have missed out the following part of time of day for reaching last delivery point,


The vast majority of letter deliveries are planned to be completed by 1430 hours and most by 1400 hours.
No we didn't....his rep said "no later than 2pm." :neutral:

We have a wee bit of a misundertsanding, I was quoting proper postie who said Well the official (i.e. CWU stated) finish times for Saturday are 3pm residential/4pm rural for a start.

The reality is we have three different last call times with a indication of how many of us will fit into each catergory.

Majority by 2pm Vast majority by 2.30pm and the remainder by 3pm

A majority on paper is 51% but what about vast majority, any one want to take a guess as to what figure could be classed as vast majority?

75%? 85%? 95%?
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Big Daz wrote:
belle smith wrote:
Big Daz wrote:You have missed out the following part of time of day for reaching last delivery point,


The vast majority of letter deliveries are planned to be completed by 1430 hours and most by 1400 hours.
No we didn't....his rep said "no later than 2pm." :neutral:

We have a wee bit of a misundertsanding, I was quoting proper postie who said Well the official (i.e. CWU stated) finish times for Saturday are 3pm residential/4pm rural for a start.

The reality is we have three different last call times with a indication of how many of us will fit into each catergory.

Majority by 2pm Vast majority by 2.30pm and the remainder by 3pm

A majority on paper is 51% but what about vast majority, any one want to take a guess as to what figure could be classed as vast majority?

75%? 85%? 95%?
Okay, crossed purposes.

Can i guess at 55% or 60% ........95% doesn't sound so bad. :pray
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Re: lies or the truth?

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Big Daz wrote:
We have a wee bit of a misundertsanding, I was quoting proper postie who said Well the official (i.e. CWU stated) finish times for Saturday are 3pm residential/4pm rural for a start.

The reality is we have three different last call times with a indication of how many of us will fit into each catergory.

Majority by 2pm Vast majority by 2.30pm and the remainder by 3pm

A majority on paper is 51% but what about vast majority, any one want to take a guess as to what figure could be classed as vast majority?

75%? 85%? 95%?
There also two other variables

1. It says "planned" :hmmmm
2. It says "letter deliveries" :hmmmm
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Re: lies or the truth?

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Big Daz wrote:
belle smith wrote:
Big Daz wrote:You have missed out the following part of time of day for reaching last delivery point,


The vast majority of letter deliveries are planned to be completed by 1430 hours and most by 1400 hours.
No we didn't....his rep said "no later than 2pm." :neutral:

We have a wee bit of a misundertsanding, I was quoting proper postie who said Well the official (i.e. CWU stated) finish times for Saturday are 3pm residential/4pm rural for a start.

The reality is we have three different last call times with a indication of how many of us will fit into each catergory.

Majority by 2pm Vast majority by 2.30pm and the remainder by 3pm

A majority on paper is 51% but what about vast majority, any one want to take a guess as to what figure could be classed as vast majority?

75%? 85%? 95%?
After flicking back through the Management powerpoint slides, (slide 13,ironic really)

Delivery: Saturdays

Saturdays become part of standardized work plan

1500 last letter residential and 1600 rural

Delivers full sequencing Mon-Sat


Not much room for scope in those statements eh? come back at 2pm on a Saturday and you're getting another hours work to deliver by the looks of it.
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proper postie wrote:After flicking back through the Management powerpoint slides, (slide 13,ironic really)

Delivery: Saturdays

Saturdays become part of standardized work plan

1500 last letter residential and 1600 rural

Delivers full sequencing Mon-Sat


Not much room for scope in those statements eh? come back at 2pm on a Saturday and you're getting another hours work to deliver by the looks of it.
ah but if you work through your tea break :d'oh! maybe the vast majority will.

ps. i know it says planned Daz.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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One of those things local reps will need to keep a eye on as we are the policemen of this deal looking out for criminal dealings by the management.

One question though can I use a truncheon :hmmmm :chuckle
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Re: lies or the truth?

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Big Daz wrote:One of those things local reps will need to keep a eye on as we are the policemen of this deal looking out for criminal dealings by the management.

One question though can I use a truncheon :hmmmm :chuckle

More like one of those private security gaurds with a crappy uniform and no real power. :cuppa
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Re: lies or the truth?

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belle smith wrote:
proper postie wrote:After flicking back through the Management powerpoint slides, (slide 13,ironic really)

Delivery: Saturdays

Saturdays become part of standardized work plan

1500 last letter residential and 1600 rural

Delivers full sequencing Mon-Sat


Not much room for scope in those statements eh? come back at 2pm on a Saturday and you're getting another hours work to deliver by the looks of it.
ah but if you work through your tea break :d'oh! maybe the vast majority will.

ps. i know it says planned Daz.

Incompetent summary by RML, what a surprise :no no
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Re: lies or the truth?

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fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:One of those things local reps will need to keep a eye on as we are the policemen of this deal looking out for criminal dealings by the management.

One question though can I use a truncheon :hmmmm :chuckle

More like one of those private security gaurds with a crappy uniform and no real power. :cuppa
You forgot the plastic badge.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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Big Daz wrote:Incompetent summary by RML, what a surprise :no no
RML seem to have got what they wanted. I don't think their compatence is the issue.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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Big Daz wrote:
belle smith wrote:
proper postie wrote:After flicking back through the Management powerpoint slides, (slide 13,ironic really)

Delivery: Saturdays

Saturdays become part of standardized work plan

1500 last letter residential and 1600 rural

Delivers full sequencing Mon-Sat


Not much room for scope in those statements eh? come back at 2pm on a Saturday and you're getting another hours work to deliver by the looks of it.
ah but if you work through your tea break :d'oh! maybe the vast majority will.

ps. i know it says planned Daz.

Incompetent summary by RML, what a surprise :no no
There's another two bullet points to it,one about commitment to I in 4,and another about joint national review on progress,but that's it.

This is what managers are getting.It's basically diktat.
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Re: lies or the truth?

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belle smith wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Big Daz wrote:One of those things local reps will need to keep a eye on as we are the policemen of this deal looking out for criminal dealings by the management.

One question though can I use a truncheon :hmmmm :chuckle

More like one of those private security gaurds with a crappy uniform and no real power. :cuppa
You forgot the plastic badge.
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Sorry Daz coudn't reist. :chuckle :chuckle :chuckle
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