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London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
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pop it in pete
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
Well i found the whole thing very weird. No real oppostion to the proposed agreement many people left after the 6th/ 7th question. The reasoning regarding the agreement on purely buisness grounds. One alarming revelation was that the Head of Health and Safety wasnt in on the negotiations only one area safety rep. Could that be the reason why we are facing the colapse of the 3.5 hr delivery span?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
We are facing the collapse of the 3.5hr delivery span because in some offices with a high ratio of full timers there won't be enough indoor work to sustain an 8 hr day.pop it in pete wrote:Well i found the whole thing very weird. No real oppostion to the proposed agreement many people left after the 6th/ 7th question. The reasoning regarding the agreement on purely buisness grounds. One alarming revelation was that the Head of Health and Safety wasnt in on the negotiations only one area safety rep. Could that be the reason why we are facing the colapse of the 3.5 hr delivery span?
If you've got 20 f/t staff and 60 hrs of indoor work it means 3hrs each and consequently a delivery span of 4hr 08 approx on a 39 hr week.
If you've got 15 f/t staff with 60 hrs indoor work it means a delivery span of 3hr 08 approx on a 39 hr week.
Locally (to a certain extent) you decide what you want to do.
In the second case it might be a 4 day week and longer days/deliveries.
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Big Daz
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
pop it in pete wrote:Well i found the whole thing very weird. No real oppostion to the proposed agreement many people left after the 6th/ 7th question. The reasoning regarding the agreement on purely buisness grounds. One alarming revelation was that the Head of Health and Safety wasnt in on the negotiations only one area safety rep. Could that be the reason why we are facing the colapse of the 3.5 hr delivery span?
It over ran which may be why some left?
Still going at 2.45 pm despite a scheduled 2pm finish.
A 10 am start would have been better.
On the bright side DK was wearing a trademark pink shirt
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clashcityrocker
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
Daz - we were hoping for some deep political insight not the sartorial habits of DK.Big Daz wrote:
On the bright side DK was wearing a trademark pink shirt
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fishtank
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.clashcityrocker wrote:Daz - we were hoping for some deep political insight not the sartorial habits of DK.Big Daz wrote:
On the bright side DK was wearing a trademark pink shirt
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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clashcityrocker
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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fishtank
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.
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good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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dvbuk55
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
No need to be embarrassed - I mean, there's nothing wrong with a bloke wearing pink Graham Norton has a few, Alan Leighton as well .......clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.
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dvbuk55
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
You make a few erroneous assumptions here clash, one is the FT/PT ratio, the call rate and the addition of D2D in work load which has not been established, the 39 hour week does not come into effect until the Sequenced revision NOT the unsequenced revision which will be immediate. Locally (to a certain extent) the deliveries will be decided by the workload not by consultation. Now next year when the sequenced revision comes into effect - do you think that RM will be looking for more savings and even less hours? I think they will and of course the precedent will have already been set.clashcityrocker wrote:We are facing the collapse of the 3.5hr delivery span because in some offices with a high ratio of full timers there won't be enough indoor work to sustain an 8 hr day.pop it in pete wrote:Well i found the whole thing very weird. No real oppostion to the proposed agreement many people left after the 6th/ 7th question. The reasoning regarding the agreement on purely buisness grounds. One alarming revelation was that the Head of Health and Safety wasnt in on the negotiations only one area safety rep. Could that be the reason why we are facing the colapse of the 3.5 hr delivery span?
If you've got 20 f/t staff and 60 hrs of indoor work it means 3hrs each and consequently a delivery span of 4hr 08 approx on a 39 hr week.
If you've got 15 f/t staff with 60 hrs indoor work it means a delivery span of 3hr 08 approx on a 39 hr week.
Locally (to a certain extent) you decide what you want to do.
In the second case it might be a 4 day week and longer days/deliveries.
One way to combat longer deliveries would have been a much shorter working week say 35 hours now, with a shorter paid break. Not profitable enough for RM? - shame.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.
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dvbuk55
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
You know there is something about a man in pink .........................I can't put my finger on itTrueBlueTerrier wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.Enough said
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clashcityrocker
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
We all know it's not your finger you want to put on it.dvbuk55 wrote:You know there is something about a man in pink .........................I can't put my finger on itTrueBlueTerrier wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.Enough said
I am secure in my sexuality. I don't mind the snide references to homosexuality.You betray your own fears and not mine.
A lot of people say I look pretty in pink!
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Danelectro
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
Pretty in pink-so your also a Psychedelic Furs fan as well as the Clash? I prefer the Buzzcocks and anybody selling this agreement is an Orgasm Addict and regarding the CWU's new relationship with Royal Mail-Ever Fallen In Love With Someone You Shouldnt Have Fallen in Love With?clashcityrocker wrote: A lot of people say I look pretty in pink!
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dvbuk55
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
Well they would - the sort of places you hang out clashclashcityrocker wrote:We all know it's not your finger you want to put on it.dvbuk55 wrote:You know there is something about a man in pink .........................I can't put my finger on itTrueBlueTerrier wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:And why not? I own several myself.fishtank wrote:
Never trust a man in a pink shirt.Enough said
I am secure in my sexuality. I don't mind the snide references to homosexuality.You betray your own fears and not mine.
A lot of people say I look pretty in pink!
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clashcityrocker
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Re: London roadshow 11am Conway Hall 26.03.10?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.