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Manchester roadshow propaganda

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Pinky 1
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Pinky 1 »

dingo wrote:
I understand that some people will be losing and I understand their lack of support but in no way are they the majority in deliveries. In any case unless we protect hours in delivery units by putting door to door into workload then our members will lose even more money as there won't be the work to sustain jobs .
Sorry mate, but i think you'll find that they ARE the majority in delivery offices. For the guys and girls that are walking the streets this "deal" is a kick in the teeth, and if you are part time it looks even worse. For his part, our rep has tried to sell us this propaganda, but has now come to realise he represents us and not HQ.
So that's a big fat NO from our office then........
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Just_My_Opinion
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Just_My_Opinion »

pickaname wrote:
dingo wrote:
I understand that some people will be losing .
No one should be losing. Im a member of a trade union so that everyone can treated equally in the workplace.

So as dingo has confirmed there will be people losing. Have those people not financed the CWU as much as the members that are supposedly gaining from this agreement?
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by realmichael »

dave ward clearly stated that "managers would no longer be given unachievable budget savings".

yet my manager has been tasked with a 5% saving target for next year. thats on top of this latest sham of an agreement.

it's got me beat thats for sure :cuppa
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by belle smith »

realmichael wrote:dave ward clearly stated that "managers would no longer be given unachievable budget savings".

yet my manager has been tasked with a 5% saving target for next year. thats on top of this latest sham of an agreement.

it's got me beat thats for sure :cuppa
does the agreement clearly state it!
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by realmichael »

A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by numan »

realmichael wrote:dave ward clearly stated that "managers would no longer be given unachievable budget savings".

yet my manager has been tasked with a 5% saving target for next year. thats on top of this latest sham of an agreement.

it's got me beat thats for sure :cuppa


Just like most of the wording in the agreement, this statement means all things to all men (and women), what is unachievable to you and me will not necessarily be deemed unachievable by RM.
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by realmichael »

belle smith wrote:
realmichael wrote:dave ward clearly stated that "managers would no longer be given unachievable budget savings".

yet my manager has been tasked with a 5% saving target for next year. thats on top of this latest sham of an agreement.

it's got me beat thats for sure :cuppa
does the agreement clearly state it!

no that was just the kind of crap we had to sit through!!
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

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Night Tonic wrote:Glasses never half full, always half empty. :cuppa
That's how it is for the real workers on the bottom rung of the ladder.
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

belle smith wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
pickaname wrote:
dingo wrote:
I understand that some people will be losing .
No one should be losing. Im a member of a trade union so that everyone can treated equally in the workplace.
How are we being treated equally when some are earning £1500/yr more than others quite simply because of the geographical position of their DO?
you could open a can of worms with that argument, are you proposing the same pay uniformly for all opg's irrespective of geographic location?
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Big Daz
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Big Daz »

gb93 wrote:Still non the wiser Big Daz :Very Happy

Maybe why i am still not getting this is a good deal.

I couldnt access the site last night click on submit and the access forbidden page comes up
Big Daz
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Big Daz »

gb93 wrote:Still non the wiser Big Daz :Very Happy

Maybe why i am still not getting this is a good deal.

I never said it was a good deal.
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by gb93 »

Yeah had same problem myself Big Daz couldnt get on site.

Had paranoid thoughts i was been blocked due to my unconformist views :Very Happy (unconformist to HQ & RM not you Big Daz :Very Happy )
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

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Big Daz wrote:
gb93 wrote:Still non the wiser Big Daz :Very Happy

Maybe why i am still not getting this is a good deal.

I couldnt access the site last night click on submit and the access forbidden page comes up
Yes we know - we all didn't have a problem BD - but Postman said he didn't like you so he blocked you from the site :whistle :chuckle :chuckle :chuckle
Pinky 1
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Pinky 1 »

Pinky 1 wrote:
dingo wrote:
I understand that some people will be losing and I understand their lack of support but in no way are they the majority in deliveries. In any case unless we protect hours in delivery units by putting door to door into workload then our members will lose even more money as there won't be the work to sustain jobs .
Sorry mate, but i think you'll find that they ARE the majority in delivery offices. For the guys and girls that are walking the streets this "deal" is a kick in the teeth, and if you are part time it looks even worse. For his part, our rep has tried to sell us this propaganda, but has now come to realise he represents us and not HQ.
So that's a big fat NO from our office then........
Just a quick update .......the South East Wales Amal. Branch has recommended a NO vote
At least their reps are in touch with the workers on the front line, unlike the hierarchy of this union :Applause
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Big Daz
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Re: Manchester roadshow propaganda

Post by Big Daz »

Im totally chilled out by all recommendations for and against.

They should not be seen as the be all and end all but merley as a tool to aid members in making their choice as to how to vote.

My branch will have members voting the same way as the recomendation and others voting the opposite way, no big deal.

A high turn out is very important to me, far more important than the vote outcome being the same as to where my X goes.