N. Lancs and Cumbria Branch recommend 'no'!

[dixon]

I was at Manchester today (so i hope that dispels some views that i am a manager)

But i will tell you this, on D2D which is the big swaying point on this agreement because of the monetary issue's, what we were told today was that D2D as they we know them are unsustainable, RM will lose contracts or withdraw them from certain regions, I know that some member would like this but would they be as jubliant when there receiving none, would the £20.60 payment seem like a good thing then after the boat had sailed?

I don't know what the thinking behind this branches recomendation is, but if they like the prospect of compulsary redundancies or a part time work force in the future then i cannot understand there logic.

if they were at Manchester i find it hard to believe they would recommend suicide.

It was all about doing what your members want, you have a right not to accept a shite deal that is a joke.Some of these AREA /DIV REPS have lost touch with the workforce they are supposed to be representing .But i promise you this THERE DAYS ARE NUMBERD.. WELL DONE TO EVERYONE IN THAT ROOM WHO HAD BALLS TO STAND UP TO THESE JOKERS!!

[dixon]

Well done lancs and cumbria for standing against the current deal (pay cut) lets hope more regions follow soon pat on the back for the reps who speak the truth to there membership who can actually read the agreement themselves and decide what a crock of sh*t it is .........and lets hope that reps at a higher levels and endorse the deal realise this is a pay cut for most delivery postmen ...please take note of the discontent of there membership .....it could be your jobs under threat come election time and may be seing you on a walk soon with d2d (no cap) for £20.60

The sooner the better thats what i say we want people who are gonna look after there members interest and not there own pockets and the sooner they get back on the job and realise why people aint gonna accept a pay cut and increase in workload the better!!! LOOK OUT BOYS YOUR FULLTIME RELEASE MIGHT SOON BE OVER!!

[disgracednlc]

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[adrianjames]

After the meeting in Manchester today N.Lancs and Cumbria branch voted to recommend a 'no' vote.
More later, got to get home yet.
Just got a bit more interesting

well done :mfo :cfo :lfo

[machineman]

I've had my say you know what you are, At least it makes your job easier when people ask what do you recommend you won't have to use your head, and perhaps you will get voted on next time. if it doesn't get voted in nationally and who knows d2d part of the agreement is altered, it would be a shame if they offered a much smaller deal next time around. It's a shame if you can't put trust in your own union who can you trust.... Your DOM perhaps.

I think you hit the nail right on the head there !!

It's a shame if you can't put trust in your own union who can you trust

I think most on here are useing there head and discussed this to great length's unlike the sheep that just nod and bow (if the cap fits ) and will take an informed decision when the time comes and not " just toe the party line "

[dvbuk55]

Firstly can I just say as part of the north lancs and cumbria membership, I am absolutely disgraced that you would recommend a no vote to our membership. Also may I add the Clowns that voted to recommend no are the same clowns who have shown no interest as unit reps in turning up to ANY branch meetings nor have they full understood the consequences of their actions and just to add one more thing the guys who are area/div reps in nl/c are top notch, hiding behind a forum is cowardly and typical of the people who voted no. I hope we get the yes vote because if we don't these reps will have to live with their actions.

Well you are aptly named - disgraced is what you should be for that statement. These Reps represent the shop floor, not the recommendation of the CWU. You make a statement that is not substantiated by any section whatsoever of this agreement. These Area and Div Reps are a disgrace - lets get them down to the shop floor meetings and express the same sentiments you display on here face to face with the membership they are supposed to represent.

Now why on earth would you recommend a YES vote - and I ask you the same question I have posed before:

IF THIS DEAL WAS ANY GOOD WOULD IT NEED THE CWU LEADERSHIP CIRCUS TO SELL IT?

[mcboing boing]

Firstly can I just say as part of the north lancs and cumbria membership, I am absolutely disgraced that you would recommend a no vote to our membership. Also may I add the Clowns that voted to recommend no are the same clowns who have shown no interest as unit reps in turning up to ANY branch meetings nor have they full understood the consequences of their actions and just to add one more thing the guys who are area/div reps in nl/c are top notch, hiding behind a forum is cowardly and typical of the people who voted no. I hope we get the yes vote because if we don't these reps will have to live with their actions.

How do you know who voted which way? I assume you were there, if thats the case then how where they hiding when they would have been in plain view.
As for hiding behind a forum is`nt that what you are doing now because disgracednlc is not your real name.

[dvbuk55]

Firstly can I just say as part of the north lancs and cumbria membership, I am absolutely disgraced that you would recommend a no vote to our membership. Also may I add the Clowns that voted to recommend no are the same clowns who have shown no interest as unit reps in turning up to ANY branch meetings nor have they full understood the consequences of their actions and just to add one more thing the guys who are area/div reps in nl/c are top notch, hiding behind a forum is cowardly and typical of the people who voted no. I hope we get the yes vote because if we don't these reps will have to live with their actions.

How do you know who voted which way? I assume you were there, if thats the case then how where they hiding when they would have been in plain view.
As for hiding behind a forum is`nt that what you are doing now because disgracednlc is not your real name.

Oh he's hiding alright - he is probably one of those same self serving Area/Div Reps who don't want to rock the boat and disturb the release time/pay which they get now and it may not be generally known that they receive the same salary as a Manager not the same salary as a postman.

What we as ordinary members don't know is what this new cosy little deal between RM and the CWU is that is going to put the financial support by RM on a new solid foundation - well its in the agreement BUT I'll just bet this issue isn't being raised at the circus.

To be taken seriously again the CWU needs to get back to grass roots, those same grass roots that financially support it and back it - but that is coming to an end, within five years they will have to amalgamate with another union, possibly UNITE and then all these full time officers will be out of a job.

[dixon]

Firstly can I just say as part of the north lancs and cumbria membership, I am absolutely disgraced that you would recommend a no vote to our membership. Also may I add the Clowns that voted to recommend no are the same clowns who have shown no interest as unit reps in turning up to ANY branch meetings nor have they full understood the consequences of their actions and just to add one more thing the guys who are area/div reps in nl/c are top notch, hiding behind a forum is cowardly and typical of the people who voted no. I hope we get the yes vote because if we don't these reps will have to live with their actions.

How do you know who voted which way? I assume you were there, if thats the case then how where they hiding when they would have been in plain view.
As for hiding behind a forum is`nt that what you are doing now because disgracednlc is not your real name.

Oh he's hiding alright - he is probably one of those same self serving Area/Div Reps who don't want to rock the boat and disturb the release time/pay which they get now and it may not be generally known that they receive the same salary as a Manager not the same salary as a postman.

What we as ordinary members don't know is what this new cosy little deal between RM and the CWU is that is going to put the financial support by RM on a new solid foundation - well its in the agreement BUT I'll just bet this issue isn't being raised at the circus.
THEY CAN HIDE AND THEY DO KNOW WHICH WAY WE VOTED AND A FEW OF THEM HAD THE NERVE TO INSULT OUR COLLEAGUES WHO VOTED A WAY THEY DIDNT LIKE .MAYBE ITS ABOUT TIME THE REST OF US IN THAT ROOM VOTED A WAY THERE POSITIONS!!
To be taken seriously again the CWU needs to get back to grass roots, those same grass roots that financially support it and back it - but that is coming to an end, within five years they will have to amalgamate with another union, possibly UNITE and then all these full time officers will be out of a job.

[mucker]

i Asked My Area RepWhat Our Branch Recomendation Is, He didnt no

[delighted]

As my name states and as my vote counted in the North Lancs and cumbria BRANCH i was absolutely delighted that finally we have got reps who are willing to represent the workers who voted them in position.To the rest of my comrades in that room i salute you.

[Daphne Fairfax]

Good on yers Lancs & Cumbria..........wheres the rest of yers?
Lets support the reps who give a $h*t

[stevie247]

After the meeting in Manchester today N.Lancs and Cumbria branch voted to recommend a 'no' vote.
More later, got to get home yet.
Just got a bit more interesting

Well done the reps of this branch obviously THEY have a conscience unlike HQ.......

[zedman]

Bristol and district have recommended a 'no' vote

[dvbuk55]

Bristol and district have recommended a 'no' vote

Bristol and District I salute you