N. Lancs and Cumbria Branch recommend 'no'!

[phantomshare]

I was at Manchester today (so i hope that dispels some views that i am a manager)

But i will tell you this, on D2D which is the big swaying point on this agreement because of the monetary issue's, what we were told today was that D2D as they we know them are unsustainable, RM will lose contracts or withdraw them from certain regions, I know that some member would like this but would they be as jubliant when there receiving none, would the £20.60 payment seem like a good thing then after the boat had sailed?

I don't know what the thinking behind this branches recomendation is, but if they like the prospect of compulsary redundancies or a part time work force in the future then i cannot understand there logic.

if they were at Manchester i find it hard to believe they would recommend suicide.

[MinisterofCucumber]

If you vote with your conscience, there is only one way to vote.

Who seriously thinks it is acceptable for one set of human beings to decide that another group should have their pay and conditions worsened?

The German people repeatedly voted in the Nazis because the majority's standard of living rose on the backs of a suffering minority.

[postietaz]

so phantom are you telling us royal mail are gunna let these contrcts go, now we getting paid f8ck all to deliver them fooking wake up man ,someone already stated royal mail kiss goodbye to £40 million in d2d contracts .i assume because this is not a nationwide d2d only profitable areas that the customer wants so in a nutshell if you dont deliver d2d then no pound notes pay those that deliver .because if you think d2d are gunna dissapear you are so wrong

[phantomshare]

D2D are not going to disappear, but RM's share is getting less and less.

wake up.

there are companies out there doing the same work.

[postietaz]

do one adam crozier go fook the tv up

[phantomshare]

very mature debate, don't like the truth?

[BELIAL]

very mature debate, don't like the truth?

FFs you simpleton ,no business ever gives up it's most profitable line.We really are f****d if the majority are like you.Grow a brain cell and do the rest of us a favour

[phantomshare]

do you not think RM will put them all in 1 envelope?

Could RM say there workload now there's no additional payment anymore?

Don't get personal knobhead.

[phantomshare]

and it's not about them giving it up it's about it being taken away.

[baldrick]

do you not think RM will put them all in 1 envelope?
Could RM say there workload now there's no additional payment anymore?

I don't work in Deliveries, but as I understand it the companies who use D2D don't want them
in one wrapper as they will go straight in the bin.

[BELIAL]

do you not think RM will put them all in 1 envelope?

Could RM say there workload now there's no additional payment anymore?

Don't get personal knobhead.

I stand fully corrected,head bowed and in abject regret of my unforgivable transgression

[labbloke]

I would personally like to thank our North Western brothers and sisters for their recommendation.

Some nasty people will say how dare they after CWU HQ raodshow.

But it shows that serious activists/reps have thought long and hard about the ramifications of the deal and how it seriously affects a significant portion of the workforce.

Bless you all.

[mitzi]

Good show to delivery reps from NL&C. No doubt the self interested reps from distribution did not share your views.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

does it really matter what various branches recommend?
we all have a brain in our head
and a vote in our pocket
me , im voting no

History shows it makes a huge difference. The likes of you and I will think / judge for ourselves but a very large % of members will go with branch recommendations. Previous agreements / elections support this.

Regrettably Lovejoy is right on this one - During the ballot for the last agreement I heard someone ask our Rep "What does the Branch recommend" He being truthful said "Yes to accept although ......" and the bloke asking interrupted and said "Thats good enough for me" and walked off

[baldrick]

Yes it will probably go on Branch recommendations.
The people on this site are more aware of the arguments and details of the proposed agreement,
but most CWU members, unfortunately, will not read (or understand due to the terminology used)
the agreement in full, and will go on Branch/rep's advice - and the propaganda that will be coming
from both the CWU and RM.