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part timers - time for us to fight
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
You been on the buckfast son?
Cant say im with you on this one as most part timers in our office are lazy work shy f***ers.
cant afford to drink.. son
Nice attitude towards us.. son
Cant say im with you on this one as most part timers in our office are lazy work shy f***ers.
cant afford to drink.. son
Nice attitude towards us.. son
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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creedscat
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
el_cartero wrote:You been on the buckfast son?
Cant say im with you on this one as most part timers in our office are lazy work shy f***ers.
cant afford to drink.. son
Nice attitude towards us.. son
Most in our office not all, clues in the sentence if your read it properly eh.
You sure you aint been on the buckfast??
or the frosty jacks maybe
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
been on the big bottle of diluting juice that lasts a month.
and the cheapo saver deal meals.
what u on m8?
luxury full timer items? haha
and the cheapo saver deal meals.
what u on m8?
luxury full timer items? haha
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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smokerjim
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
Do you know the meaning or the etymology of the word "Union"? It comes from the Latin word for "one" ( wiki dictionary entry for "union" http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/union" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) - it is one voice for many.....two unions will be two voices for less voices each, just what RM want, two voices shouting and arguing and being ignored by RM, rather than having one very loud voice shouting at RM & forcing RM to pay attention! Maybe you would do yourself a service if you learn a bit of union and workers rights history first.....and before you fire off a sarcastic or witless response, stop, think, and ask yourself, is it better to have people think you are a fool, or is it better to open your mouth & confirm it?
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
THREAD IS IN DANGER OF BEING LOCKED GET BACK ON TOPIC.
EL CATERO - IF YOU WANT TO START A THREAD AND THEN GET IT DELETED BY CARRYING ON THE INSULTS YOU ARE GOING THE RIGHT WAY ABOUT IT.
PASSIONS ARE HIGH BUT PLEASE STOP THE INSULTS
posted at same as smoker-jims post (but appeared after) however this warning is not meant for him.
EL CATERO - IF YOU WANT TO START A THREAD AND THEN GET IT DELETED BY CARRYING ON THE INSULTS YOU ARE GOING THE RIGHT WAY ABOUT IT.
PASSIONS ARE HIGH BUT PLEASE STOP THE INSULTS
posted at same as smoker-jims post (but appeared after) however this warning is not meant for him.
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
Im commited to part timers rights and if CWU are not up to the job then there will be change.
I will not stand for it.
and if that means generating a new union for a workforce that has differnt rights than others in the workplace.
so be it.
I will not stand for it.
and if that means generating a new union for a workforce that has differnt rights than others in the workplace.
so be it.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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lovejoy
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
This or any other deal will be voted on by CWU members only. Whether the deal is good or not is for us to debate. You forgo your right to this debate by not being in the Union - End of.el_cartero wrote:Im commited to part timers rights and if CWU are not up to the job then there will be change.
I will not stand for it.
and if that means generating a new union for a workforce that has differnt rights than others in the workplace.
so be it.
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
aslong as CWU are setting up deals that involve part timers getting the s**t stick.
watch this space.
watch this space.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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ad0128
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
sounds an awful deal for us if Pro-rata.
good luck el carto
nobody on here will listen
good luck el carto
nobody on here will listen
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
What I do find amazing is that El-catero has experienced a local problem with his own offices Management and Full time employees yet with no other valid data has extrapolated his experience to the Corporate body and now proposes a national solution to a local problem.
What is even worse is that he is ignoring posts (mine for a start) that have agreed with him and think that Pro Rata for delivery supplement is wrong as they don't fit into his blinkered view of the CWU and RM nationally.
I don't mind if he wants to start a new Union, it wont see much interest and quite frankly its a fantasy, but even if he was 100% genuine about setting up a part time union he would in the long run, be doing more harm to his members in the long term, than this awful deal is going to do over the next 5 years.
Also El-Cartero to become a GS of a Union you need to show more leadership, more ability to discuss uncomfortable matters, an ability to address your concerns to management and be much more decisive than your posts show to date.
What is even worse is that he is ignoring posts (mine for a start) that have agreed with him and think that Pro Rata for delivery supplement is wrong as they don't fit into his blinkered view of the CWU and RM nationally.
I don't mind if he wants to start a new Union, it wont see much interest and quite frankly its a fantasy, but even if he was 100% genuine about setting up a part time union he would in the long run, be doing more harm to his members in the long term, than this awful deal is going to do over the next 5 years.
Also El-Cartero to become a GS of a Union you need to show more leadership, more ability to discuss uncomfortable matters, an ability to address your concerns to management and be much more decisive than your posts show to date.
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number one
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
El-Cartero how long have you worked for RM?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
What I find amazing is 40 replies to his fantasy union.
He certainly knows a think or two about provoking a reaction.
Like someone else said about a spot - leave it alone it will go away.
Scratch away at it and you could be scarred for life.
He certainly knows a think or two about provoking a reaction.
Like someone else said about a spot - leave it alone it will go away.
Scratch away at it and you could be scarred for life.
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BELIAL
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Also El-Cartero to become a GS of a Union you need to show more leadership, more ability to discuss uncomfortable matters, an ability to address your concerns to management and be much more decisive than your posts show to date.
Bye
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streetwalker
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
lovejoy wrote:This or any other deal will be voted on by CWU members only. Whether the deal is good or not is for us to debate. You forgo your right to this debate by not being in the Union - End of.el_cartero wrote:Im commited to part timers rights and if CWU are not up to the job then there will be change.
I will not stand for it.
and if that means generating a new union for a workforce that has differnt rights than others in the workplace.
so be it.
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
They accepted this - when they should of announced that the deal on the table isnt good enough and threatend further action.
If they do think this is acceptable then obviously im right.. we need a new union.
This is just a waiste of everyones time.
What did royal mail do to persuade them not to take that action?
I think these talks shouldnt be closed to 3 or 4 guys .
corruption at its finest.
If they do think this is acceptable then obviously im right.. we need a new union.
This is just a waiste of everyones time.
What did royal mail do to persuade them not to take that action?
I think these talks shouldnt be closed to 3 or 4 guys .
corruption at its finest.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers