dvbuk55 wrote:dingo wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:Dingo are you suggesting the talks are being delayed because London has not reached agreement on Interim Agreement 2.3?
TBH I didn't think the interim agreement was still ongoing - take a look the posts on here at various offices round the country, this is being imposed or that is being imposed and so on.
No I never said that ! But London is a powerful part of the union and both royal mail and Cwu hqs know that. In any case royal mail cannot introduce anything else in London until we have resolved the executive action
Some would say too powerful with undue influence. Lets now create a scenario where the PEC/CWU have to put it to the vote and they will have to eventually regardless of the state of play in London, and the vote is a YES. The London issues will still be outstanding but the deal is accepted, where do you stand? I would have thought you would be fairly isolated wouldn't you?
We really do have to wonder what is taking so long to resolve the issues that were so close to resolution more than two months ago.
It will not happen. Royal Mail know that they cannot unlock the savings in London with the CWU being involved. They tried it last year and have not realised all the savings and have causuals still delivering as late a 7 oclock in the evening in Wimbledon , Islington , Southwark , Docklands and Streatham where they introduced so called geo route revisons by executive action. Their planners cant introduce any geo route successfully without our members doing sid and sarah , updating the A plus and the mapping verification, in Islington alone the planners missed 900 delivery points of their imposed revison.
This brings me on to your seconds point , Please believe me no one was encouraged to do geo routes under any pay and mod deal . Yes some did and as ususal Royal Mail allowed the first few offices to get a few jobs back and a few part timers up graded to full time. Then they adjusted the time for walking paths and for delivery of items and attendance calls.
The majority of the rest then got sticthed up including Watford. Now I know this is the truth as in London we refused to even hold the training school which i think was a mistake by the union.
With regards terms of last years pay claim getting settled and backdated , lets face it last years inflation figure for april would mean its would be worth appoxmately £200 , there are better ways to use that money as its worth more in an exit rate rather than a backdated sum.
the good work
