Billy Hayes on You & Yours

[Roy Mayall]

It's about 30 minutes into the programme. He's discussing Dear Granny Smith with a business consultant. The Royal Mail were asked to take part in the discussion but declined.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 8_12_2009/

[stokes11eg]

Well. once again, Big Billy seems to be sprouting R/M propoganda.

[genesis]

Did you here hooper say the machines ie walk sequencing ,will give us more time to do our walks? AS IF!

[norbert]

Well. once again, Big Billy seems to be sprouting R/M propoganda.

trying too hard to stay on New Labour message or too neutral / reasonable - The Rt . Hon Member for Greystone Towers in 2010 + ? - Hooper was irritating , the hollow rhetoric you'd expect , didn't like that book at all but Billy should have stood up to it better .

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Bob Crow did make a right c**t of himself on " Have I got news for You " though with incoherent rants about Europe etc , maybe Billy didn't want to go the same way & get demonised by the media - I'm afraid Billy doesn't seem quick enough and better with a script , he was starting to repeat himself .

[noggin1969]

How did Billy manage t

[BELIAL]

Just listened to that. f***ing Ada The best thing King Billy could do to help the membership is a three month stint on delivery. Go on BILL show the members how in touch you are,it might stop your sickening management sycophancy. You are so out of touch it ain't real. Lie with dogs and you get fleas, in your case Billy Smarts has got cause for concern
Hooplet
Beginners guide to spotting parasitical establishment fat cats of rank and privilege ;
Step one; anyone who utters the words "get real"
Translation - I know best, if you disagree you are stupid or a fantasist
Step two; no need

[fishtank]

Just listened to that. f***ing Ada The best thing King Billy could do to help the membership is a three month stint on delivery. Go on BILL show the members how in touch you are,it might stop your sickening management sycophancy. You are so out of touch it ain't real. Lie with dogs and you get fleas, in your case Billy Smarts has got cause for concern
Hooplet
Beginners guide to spotting parasitical establishment fat cats of rank and privilege ;
Step one; anyone who utters the words "get real"
Translation - I know best, if you disagree you are stupid or a fantasist
Step two; no need

The only question is,Is this only Billy's personal opinion or that of the CWU hierarchy.
If Billy is isolated in his views then his position is untenable.
If not we are all f*cked.

[knackeredneedadayoff]

is he really our union leader, i thought he was suppose to put our view across,no i must be wrong.

[BELIAL]

I'm an OPG, nothing this man said made me think that he understood my daily grind.He does not know what I endure daily for a piss poor pittance . Good on you Roy M. ,nostalgia has got bugger all to do with it

[La Poste]

Is it true to say the unions main membership within RM comes from deliveries?
Anyone know?

[dvbuk55]

I'm an OPG, nothing this man said made me think that he understood my daily grind.He does not know what I endure daily for a piss poor pittance . Good on you Roy M. ,nostalgia has got bugger all to do with it

That's exactly how I felt listening to Billy waffle. In fairness though it isn't just Billy is it? Whenever you hear and see Tolhurst, Billy, Dave and even some of the posters on here there seems to be a huge gap between their idea of reality and the actuality. They have no grasp of the daily difficulty faced by delivery posties, callers office staff, locker staff, bulk drivers and all the small sundry jobs that used to be carried out by indoor staff which have since disappeared and are now an ad hoc style which usually ends up as a chaotic mess.

[BELIAL]

I'm an OPG, nothing this man said made me think that he understood my daily grind.He does not know what I endure daily for a piss poor pittance . Good on you Roy M. ,nostalgia has got bugger all to do with it

That's exactly how I felt listening to Billy waffle. In fairness though it isn't just Billy is it? Whenever you hear and see Tolhurst, Billy, Dave and even some of the posters on here there seems to be a huge gap between their idea of reality and the actuality. They have no grasp of the daily difficulty faced by delivery posties, callers office staff, locker staff, bulk drivers and all the small sundry jobs that used to be carried out by indoor staff which have since disappeared and are now an ad hoc style which usually ends up as a chaotic mess.

In fairness I agree. Must say ,Bitten my lip re this dispute in the vain hope that I'd somehow missed the bigger hidden strategic plan. However,given recent revelations about projected walk spans and local agreements it does appear that both sides are one side and the workers get shafted.So if that's the state of play ,what's our best move now? Constructive comments only please

[Lounge Lizard]

Did you here hooper say the machines ie walk sequencing ,will give us more time to do our walks? AS IF!

Yes I heard that. So will it be a more leasurely pace or an extra coffee stop ?

[baldrick]

Is it true to say the unions main membership within RM comes from deliveries?
Anyone know?

Yes most of the postal side of the CWU (there is the BT side as well) is in deliveries. About two-thirds I think.
But if you take the BT membership into account., then they are probably not the majority in the CWU as a whole.

[postietaz]

wot a load of s**t publish who works 4 who slimey fewcks