Convince me it's right

[Exrep]

apart from these facts is everything else ok[/quote]

Thanks for asking apart from all those examples everythinks running splendidly.

I just love my D/O its the best.

[mailman71]

whats happening in every office is a bloody disgrace and the media should be told about the bully boy tactics.

[kwf166]

Convince me or not mate, once all the hell that is happeing in other offices you soon find out what you are in for, I had a meeting last night with my colleagues and union reps, and it quite clear that all this talk I been hearing about, will happen at our office soon, if I were you, I start finding out these things as quickly as possible, start reading the threads on this forum too, and get in touch with your rep, and finally mate good luck at your office, because you going to need it.

[whitetrash]

Good thread, thanks for keeping it civil, I expected a backlash for it

Can't believe how bad it actually is in some offices, Like I said I'll stand out, I don't want the union to be obsolete, I could see that been the end of all that is good (well whats left of it)

Going back to the loosing 8 hours pay if you cannot complete. I often can't complete my round, I can tell by the amount of mec on a morning that it will be impossible to complete and tell my manager straight away, I get the old we don't have anyone to take it but I stand firm and just work my times, I can't see how they can force you to work any extra than you actually have to. Are you saying that we will HAVE to complete our round wether we can or not??

In fact we had a bloke start on a 25 hour contract as he was semi retired, he was soon doing 50 and then put his foot down and said he would only work 25 hours, which is all he did.

[Exrep]

Good thread, thanks for keeping it civil, I expected a backlash for it

Can't believe how bad it actually is in some offices, Like I said I'll stand out, I don't want the union to be obsolete, I could see that been the end of all that is good (well whats left of it)

Going back to the loosing 8 hours pay if you cannot complete. I often can't complete my round, I can tell by the amount of mec on a morning that it will be impossible to complete and tell my manager straight away, I get the old we don't have anyone to take it but I stand firm and just work my times, I can't see how they can force you to work any extra than you actually have to. Are you saying that we will HAVE to complete our round wether we can or not??

In fact we had a bloke start on a 25 hour contract as he was semi retired, he was soon doing 50 and then put his foot down and said he would only work 25 hours, which is all he did.

When i first came to this site i think i was like you our office was great .

I couldnt believe what i was reading some of the posts i thought were a bit far fetched.

But before i could blink the horror stories i was reading about were coming into our office.

[Acca Dacca]

As a fairly newbie on a 25 hour contract, what are the main issues have I to lose/gain?

I am 100% out btw so its not that I need convinced just still uncertain.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

As a fairly newbie on a 25 hour contract, what are the main issues have I to lose/gain?

I am 100% out btw so its not that I need convinced just still uncertain.

For you - no chance of getting more hours and less chance for docket to make your hours up. Especially as there are rumours if RM can ge rid of the Union there will be set hours per duty and if you can't complete in time tough, you still finish but you get no docket.


PHASE 4 CONCERNS

Union de-recognition

Harsher sickness/discipline process

No local voice in changes - so even if RM bring in changes that are unworkable you still have to do them.

D2Ds not being paid for but still in delivery spec.

No payment for first 3 days of sickness

Redundancy terms reduced.

Monthly pay enforced with RM making the tranistion as painless as possible - for them.

[postietaz]

The issues surrounding this strike are so complex. I am in a similar position as whitetrash. My office runs ok, no bullying etc.. The workload is high after all the changes, but anyone who has trouble with their work seems to get help or paid ot. Now, many people in our office are going in to work on friday, saying that they are not going to lose money because some offices in the country won't cooperate and implement the pay and mod agreement, with the main caveat that all paid hours will be worked at an agreed standard.
Now the question is this, do we believe the management argument, mainly that some offices are full of posties unwilling to work their paid hours at standard, who have caused a strike from the bottom up? Or, that some offices have been genuinely over stretched and that managers in these offices, desperate for their bonuses, have resorted to intimidating the workforce in order to achieve their budgets?

The first argument is very difficult to ascertain the truth of.
The second of these is much more worrying as it will definately get to everyone, and cause a miserable working environment.

I have to play safe with this one, the second argument is not a possiblity we can tolerate. Therefore I support the union regarding this issue..

Any more feedback?

you state agreed who with themselves

[bandit1157]

Or, that some offices have been genuinely over stretched and that managers in these offices, desperate for their bonuses, have resorted to intimidating the workforce in order to achieve their budgets?

that's the one. after losing 135 hours, today we were told more hours to be cut next year. :cfo :mfo

[cookie]

4 hour town walks as standard!