National strike.....will you deliver....

[Martin Walsh]

Pay is a fundremental part of this dispute. Not in the way of a pay increase but forcing Royal Mail to pay for change. There are going to be massive changes in this indusutry so why shouldt we see our terms and conditions improved in recognition for those changes and our increased producitivity.

The other resolutions is the future of deliveries including the span, attendances , last letter rurals and town ,D2D , automation , car derived vans, standards, geo route agreement to list a few issues.

With regards to mail centres it includes the number which will be left , the ways of working , automation . Siso sortings , distrubtion collections.

Network will mean an agreement on netwrok 2009 and the changes that arise from the mail centre agreement

Off course overlaying this must be the benefits agreement including SWW. Plus an agreement on no complusory redundancies and transfers. Plus the strenghtening of the IR framework within the workplace.

Finally we need to ensure that the agreement resolves all the local executive action within an agreed framework which includes resign issues, earnings, workload , attendances and duty numbers.

On top of all this a independent review into bullying and harrassment .

So as you can see it is a complex issue where pay is just one part of the disucssions.

[andy2007]

Dingo, the only thing that I disagree with you about, is the pay element. Like I (and many others on here) have been saying for some time. There are far more important issues (to us) to be addressed that getting a pay rise.

You're right, that we DESERVE a pay rise, and/or a lump sum. For what we've achieved, and will achieve in the future. But if it comes to a choice between getting a pay rise and/or bonus. And protecting the service, and our working conditions. Then there's really no contest IMHO.

[BELIAL]

Spot on Dingo. Why on earth should we work harder for less reward simply to protect a vital public service.

Funny that you never hear of bankers;consultants or MP's working harder for less pay or smaller pensions.

If anyone thinks that their only option is to choose between better pay or protecting jobs and the service then they are already beaten. That is the choice presented to you by management ,it is not the only option.
If you fall into into the trap of playing the game by a set of rules fixed by RM then you will lose one way or another. Mr Crozier must be laughing his socks off at how easy it is to dupe some of us, like taking candy off a baby

[andy2007]

When did RM offer to make the work rates fair, stop the B&H, stop making deliveries later and later, consult the Union properly about their modernisation plans, etc., etc..?
I didn't hear about that.

[BELIAL]

Neither did I. Who said they did

[kwikpost]

support for the union seem's to be fading fast in our office. up till now we've been 100% when striking. but lossing over a £1000 over the last 3 month's while waiting for the rest of the country to join us us caused a lot of bad feeling's. the feeling right now seem's to be it's the union that have caused a 20% cut in pay which has resulted in quite a few finding it almost inpossible to make end's meet we've had a whip round 3 times now to help out our work mates. to be completly honest i've seen a lot on here talk the talk. but how many of you will feel the same after lossing £1000. with no end in sight to the loss of earning's. if we have a bad winter with big fuel bills some in our office could well go under.

[jim1911]

If we are shafted by the union this time, I believe its time to join the Transport and General Workers Union. Unless they have changed, I found them brilliant when I was a member.

[london sub]

Its everything the union and its members want, but probably won't expect half of what is being said. I personally don't want a pay increase, yes it would be great to get it, but at the same time the strike is not just about a pay increase and hope that the union scrap this from their campaign. If not, the public will not take to kindly to this, and support from them will be very minimal.

All i want from this strike is a better working practices within the office, instead of seeing collegues rushing about trying to get the job finshed on time, and realising it can't be done. I want the pension scheme to be secure and still be around when i retire, because the way things are looking there will be no pension! A five day working week (with a rotational day off each week) is fine by me right now...

Everyone is wanting something different out of this dispute, but we all need to stick together on this one, even though its getting frustrating at times. I want the union to succeed on accomplishing all their goals on winning this through.

[DirtyHarry]

Royal Mail made a profit, thanks in the main to frontline staff. We not only deserve a pay rise, we've bloody well earnt a pay rise.
As for the public getting the hump, tough.
BELIAL has it spot on.

[mr deeds]

i hope billy and co are not reading the above post(get real how many unemployed are there.. the public = press will hang us) ...we are not that bothered about a pay increase we just want a fair deal no bullying(which is rife)...i just want to get on with my job my customers know me now for several years and cant believe the s**t we are having to do...our dom is corrupt(the rules change every day) he has a personality that changes more times than a chamelion changes colour .cant trust him unless it's on his terms.
i 'm in the north and our wtll sessions have been built on creating a divide(you have changed but those down south have not)
some of the thick bast*rds have swallowed this crap but i for one will only look forward to join the cause...stand firm ....i can only join you when this so called union allows me 2

if this fails billy and co you can f*uck off and i will leave THE UNION along with many others

[baldrick]

If we are shafted by the union this time, I believe its time to join the Transport and General Workers Union. Unless they have changed, I found them brilliant when I was a member.

They have changed their name to Unite.
And RM Managers (CMA) belong to it.
I wouldn't want to be in the same union as those spineless strike breakers.

[stevie247]

IMHO this dispute derived from the lamentable agreement in 2007,national aggrements are being ignored by DOM's in smaller offices.This is a national union not a local one,local aggreements are key they were a ploy by senior manegment to divide and conquer jobs still not filled for years and they want more hours out and expect the rest to pick up this work harrasing people who say they wil be over threir time by constantly monitoring them and then saying they are not up to the standards,this is seen by the rest of the saff and in fear of the same treatment they come in early just to get the extra work done on time. These working conditions are unbearable.........

[london sub]

Thats where the problem lies...workers coming in early to get the job done on time, or else getting a lecture from the dom about your level of standards. This is what i want stopped within the work place (bullying & harrasment), and it won't help others by coming in early, it will just make the problem worse.

[DaveF14]

Whats this 35 hour a week thing all about? Im on a full time contract and cant afford to lose out on 5 hours pay a week. Is this going to happen?

[baldrick]

The aim is to get a reduction in hours to a 35 hour week without a reduction in pay.