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What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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DaveF14
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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Funked! wrote:DaveF14, please let us know your vision of modernization .....the stage is yours.
First off i dont have the answers. Far from it. Before we can start to modernize we need to sort out one big problem that annoys me a lot. That is equalisation of workload.
I think that lapsing isnt needed. Not until performanc checks are put in place and done correctly. Checks on sorting and outdoor delivery. Ok some are faster than others. That will never change. That is fine. But we all get paid the same. So we should still do the same amount of work regardless of speed. For example. Someone in my office being on the same duty for years. Taking thier time and claiming overtime. Were as someone else going faster and then geting an extra street put on for geting back early. Then after a few years of this the difference in size of 2 duties can be noticable. Espically when the floater goes on the duty that claims overtime and finishes well early before his time.
This is what really gets to me and is my biggest gripe. If everyone was up to standard and duties all eqaul you might notice that lapsing isnt needed in your office.
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DaveF14 wrote:
Funked! wrote:DaveF14, please let us know your vision of modernization .....the stage is yours.
First off i dont have the answers. Far from it. Before we can start to modernize we need to sort out one big problem that annoys me a lot. That is equalisation of workload.
I think that lapsing isnt needed. Not until performanc checks are put in place and done correctly. Checks on sorting and outdoor delivery. Ok some are faster than others. That will never change. That is fine. But we all get paid the same. So we should still do the same amount of work regardless of speed. For example. Someone in my office being on the same duty for years. Taking thier time and claiming overtime. Were as someone else going faster and then geting an extra street put on for geting back early. Then after a few years of this the difference in size of 2 duties can be noticable. Espically when the floater goes on the duty that claims overtime and finishes well early before his time.
This is what really gets to me and is my biggest gripe. If everyone was up to standard and duties all eqaul you might notice that lapsing isnt needed in your office.
And why leave out the big knobs :cfo out of this is it not time he worked the hours he was paid for nay less pull his weight and done a bit at least instead of talk the talk but not for one day every day a good leader should lead by example not by exemption!. :cfo
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by shelanda »

In one line you say you can understand everyone not the same speed then you finish by saying all should be up to standard, but we are ranged 18 yrs (or younger) to 65yrs how on earth can ANYONE expect the same standard??
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Post by andy2007 »

Would it matter if he WAS a Manager? :hmmmm
Everyone's welcome on here. How else will we get reasoned debates about what's happening in RM. Other than let as many interested parties, from BOTH sides, put their views across? :hmmmm
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DaveF14
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by DaveF14 »

linkinpark wrote:
DaveF14 wrote:
Funked! wrote:DaveF14, please let us know your vision of modernization .....the stage is yours.
First off i dont have the answers. Far from it. Before we can start to modernize we need to sort out one big problem that annoys me a lot. That is equalisation of workload.
I think that lapsing isnt needed. Not until performanc checks are put in place and done correctly. Checks on sorting and outdoor delivery. Ok some are faster than others. That will never change. That is fine. But we all get paid the same. So we should still do the same amount of work regardless of speed. For example. Someone in my office being on the same duty for years. Taking thier time and claiming overtime. Were as someone else going faster and then geting an extra street put on for geting back early. Then after a few years of this the difference in size of 2 duties can be noticable. Espically when the floater goes on the duty that claims overtime and finishes well early before his time.
This is what really gets to me and is my biggest gripe. If everyone was up to standard and duties all eqaul you might notice that lapsing isnt needed in your office.
Are you a nut? Sorry you sound just like a m*nager and i am sure your your not, buts whats wrong with doing your duty to the best you can and let the managers manage? as an OPG your not paid to do a managers job so why get wound up about speed and such because thats for them NOT YOU! If there is a problem then they should sort it out unless ??????????????????????????
No i am not a nut. And im certainly not a manager. Been a postie for 8 years and it gets to me that the slower you go more money you get in your wage packet each week. It should be the other way round!
You are right. The manager should notice that some staff arnt up to acceptable standard. But mine i can certainly say is blind to this and let them carry on. Dallying along all day.
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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shelanda wrote:In one line you say you can understand everyone not the same speed then you finish by saying all should be up to standard, but we are ranged 18 yrs (or younger) to 65yrs how on earth can ANYONE expect the same standard??
True but we all get paid the same basic rate. So we should all do the same amount of work for the pay we get. You shouldnt expect to do less work and get paid the same.
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by DaveF14 »

andy2007 wrote:Would it matter if he WAS a Manager? :hmmmm
Everyone's welcome on here. How else will we get reasoned debates about what's happening in RM. Other than let as many interested parties, from BOTH sides, put their views across? :hmmmm
Im not a manager but thank you. Just want to put my point across.
shelanda
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by shelanda »

DaveF14 wrote:
shelanda wrote:In one line you say you can understand everyone not the same speed then you finish by saying all should be up to standard, but we are ranged 18 yrs (or younger) to 65yrs how on earth can ANYONE expect the same standard??
True but we all get paid the same basic rate. So we should all do the same amount of work for the pay we get. You shouldnt expect to do less work and get paid the same.
So do you honestly believe that you can work the same speed at 60-65yrs then after 30 or so years in the business? If so you will be in for a hard lesson when you get to that age, unless you are lucky enough to escape without skeletal damage!
Funked!
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by Funked! »

DaveF14, i would suggest some of the wallies rushing around, cutting corners, you know the stuff, aint up to the job either.
This job is not about how fast you can deliver letters, it's about giving a good service to the public.
I'm alot fitter than some half my age where i work & could tear the arse out of deliveries if chose to - it's not the answer, this is where it leads, where we are now. It is much easier to work out a reasonable work load if we all work at a sensible pace.
You shouldn't go throwing around the word 'modernization' without any answers as this looks like you believe the propaganda from these :lfo :cfo :mfo
You are never going to have genuine equalization of walks for numerous reasons, if you've worked for RM for 8 years you should have realized this. Don't worry how others are performing.
DaveF14
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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Funked! wrote:DaveF14, i would suggest some of the wallies rushing around, cutting corners, you know the stuff, aint up to the job either.
This job is not about how fast you can deliver letters, it's about giving a good service to the public.
I'm alot fitter than some half my age where i work & could tear the arse out of deliveries if chose to - it's not the answer, this is where it leads, where we are now. It is much easier to work out a reasonable work load if we all work at a sensible pace.
You shouldn't go throwing around the word 'modernization' without any answers as this looks like you believe the propaganda from these :lfo :cfo :mfo
You are never going to have genuine equalization of walks for numerous reasons, if you've worked for RM for 8 years you should have realized this. Don't worry how others are performing.
A good service to the public is to get the mail to them early and correctly. Not in the middle of the afternoon because the postie likes a tea stop every half hour!
Funked!
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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Where do you get the idea of a tea stop every half hour from my post ? :hmmmm
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What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Answer: RESPECT from the bosses, not for going on strike but recognition of how hard most us work.
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Answer: RESPECT from the bosses, not for going on strike but recognition of how hard most us work.

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This seems to be the biggest thing everyone is saying on this thread, So why is the CWU not making more of it, telling Joe public how B&H is endemic within RM.
I personally don't give a monkeys about a pay rise this year like you i just what a bit of respect and the B&H to stop and managers who continue to persecute their
staff disciplined to the full extent of the law so this bad practice comes to an end.
jim1911
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by jim1911 »

A pension. A boss that is not ignorant. A boss that listens. A boss that cares for customer service . A boss that does not bullshit. To be treated with fairness and honesty. I would like this from our union too. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
gus
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by gus »

hopefuly to do away with all the local agreement issues and updated versions to cover us all no different set ups this
is what has been causing so many problems/vote yes.