CWU Bristol & District Amal Branch:1 NO VOTE!!

[POSTMAN]

Strike ballot timetable for City PDO, ECDO, Clifton PDO, Kingswood PDO, Nailsea PDO, Axbridge SPDO and Patchway PDO is as follows:



Latest news 1303 on 14 July 2009

Latest Ballot Results and first "No" vote

Keynsham PDO
Papers sent 34
"Yes" votes 21
"No" votes 3

Yate PDO
Papers sent 41
"Yes" votes 9
"No" votes 8
"Spoilt" 1

Thornbury PDO
Papers sent 22
"Yes" 8
"No" 10

Thornbury delivers the first "No" vote in the Branch

[k979aaa]

Strike ballot timetable for City PDO, ECDO, Clifton PDO, Kingswood PDO, Nailsea PDO, Axbridge SPDO and Patchway PDO is as follows:



Latest news 1303 on 14 July 2009

Latest Ballot Results and first "No" vote

Keynsham PDO
Papers sent 34
"Yes" votes 21
"No" votes 3

Yate PDO
Papers sent 41
"Yes" votes 9
"No" votes 8
"Spoilt" 1

Thornbury PDO
Papers sent 22
"Yes" 8
"No" 10

Thornbury delivers the first "No" vote in the Branch

KY jelly and a white flag for Thornbury PDO!.

[dvbuk55]

Strike ballot timetable for City PDO, ECDO, Clifton PDO, Kingswood PDO, Nailsea PDO, Axbridge SPDO and Patchway PDO is as follows:



Latest news 1303 on 14 July 2009

Latest Ballot Results and first "No" vote

Keynsham PDO
Papers sent 34
"Yes" votes 21
"No" votes 3

Yate PDO
Papers sent 41
"Yes" votes 9
"No" votes 8
"Spoilt" 1

Thornbury PDO
Papers sent 22
"Yes" 8
"No" 10

Thornbury delivers the first "No" vote in the Branch

KY jelly and a white flag for Thornbury PDO!.

Forget the KY - when you add the 3 offices together it would have produced a YES vote, so it begs the question why have the votes been taken in that manner and not area by area or branch by branch?

All 3 offices together are only a small delivery group and it is those sort of figures which make me think that although unpopular amalgamation is the anwer, larger offices tend to be more militant because of safety in numbers, whereas small offices are going to be run on a hail fellow well met basis - uncooperative equating to unpopular.

[brothermagrew]

Strike ballot timetable for City PDO, ECDO, Clifton PDO, Kingswood PDO, Nailsea PDO, Axbridge SPDO and Patchway PDO is as follows:



Latest news 1303 on 14 July 2009

Latest Ballot Results and first "No" vote

Keynsham PDO
Papers sent 34
"Yes" votes 21
"No" votes 3

Yate PDO
Papers sent 41
"Yes" votes 9
"No" votes 8
"Spoilt" 1

Thornbury PDO
Papers sent 22
"Yes" 8
"No" 10

Thornbury delivers the first "No" vote in the Branch

KY jelly and a white flag for Thornbury PDO!.

Forget the KY - when you add the 3 offices together it would have produced a YES vote, so it begs the question why have the votes been taken in that manner and not area by area or brance by branch?

All 3 offices together are only a small delivery group and it is those sort of figures which make me think that although unpopular amalgamation is the anwer, larger offices tend to be more militant because of safety in numbers, whereas small offices are going to be run on a hail fellow well met basis - uncooperative equating to unpopular.

Quite agree brother dvbuk55, and it looks as if Thornbury PDO have pre booked themselves a free photoshoot and column in the next edition of the Royal Mail flagship paper COURIER

[k979aaa]

In a very compromising position!.

[eian687]

why still no national ballot
let Royal Fail know what we think on a National scale

[k979aaa]

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[springs]

hope the no voters at thornbury have the decency to give in there union cards

[norbert]

In a very compromising position!.

The problem is that RM have a US union busting firm that will find something wrong , it doesn't matter how perverse , vague or obscure it is ; so maybe the CWU have to verge on the side of caution in case of a legal challenge .

Just a thought - please don't jump down my throat .

[Martin Walsh]

The fact is that you cannot legally have a Branch ballot anymore. The subsection to the employment laws do not allow an aggregated ballot result. We have taken legal advice and thats a fact.

The only way you can have an aggregatted ballot is if it includes pay . Therefore things like London weighting we can ballot all the members in the London weighting area and have an aggregated result. Or if we have a national ballot then this too can be aggregated.

Thats why the employment laws need changing it works against trade unions.

[andy2007]

hope the no voters at thornbury have the decency to give in there union cards

Why?
The Union is a Democracy. They're entitled to vote any way they choose. I agree that they're wrong to vote no. But they're just as entitled to their opinions, as you and I, are to ours.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

hope the no voters at thornbury have the decency to give in there union cards

Why?
The Union is a Democracy. They're entitled to vote any way they choose. I agree that they're wrong to vote no. But they're just as entitled to their opinions, as you and I, are to ours.

Fully agree with Andy there. Just because we disagree with the result does not mean we should expel them or ask them to leave. However, one thing does concern me is why was this office balloted anyway as looking at the results only 4 didn't vote and yet it was a No vote, surely this would have been suspected on the ground by local activists.

The other offices the disturbing thing is the return rate Yate over a half and Kenysham nearly a third did not vote at all - at least at Thornbury most of them did vote, even if we think they made a mistake.

[norbert]

hope the no voters at thornbury have the decency to give in there union cards

Why?
The Union is a Democracy. They're entitled to vote any way they choose. I agree that they're wrong to vote no. But they're just as entitled to their opinions, as you and I, are to ours.

Fully agree with Andy there. Just because we disagree with the result does not mean we should expel them or ask them to leave. However, one thing does concern me is why was this office balloted anyway as looking at the results only 4 didn't vote and yet it was a No vote, surely this would have been suspected on the ground by local activists.

The other offices the disturbing thing is the return rate Yate over a half and Kenysham nearly a third did not vote at all - at least at Thornbury most of them did vote, even if we think they made a mistake.

think RM must have encouraged them to vote and vote no , the union must have missed a trick there , RM didn't ! - sorry guys

[Stormproof]

I've spoken to some posties at my local SPDO's and they said they would'nt strike, they did'nt strike in 2007 and they would'nt this time, reason being the CWU does nothing for them, no visits etc.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I've spoken to some posties at my local SPDO's and they said they would'nt strike, they did'nt strike in 2007 and they would'nt this time, reason being the CWU does nothing for them, no visits etc.

This is a common complaint and one that needs to be addressed. The CWU need Branch Officials that are on full time release to have more face to face contact with their own members.

I have seem one of my officials more when we have attended demos than at work and I have only been on 3 demos in 7 years