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YOU COULD'NT MAKE IT UP

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jockstrapp
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YOU COULD'NT MAKE IT UP

Post by jockstrapp »

Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo
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jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo
Has he/she tripped the 14 day's or 4 absences in a twelve month period?.
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Post by pinstripe »

A friend of a friend, of a friend, should tip off the papers, show RM for what they truly are and what we have to put up with.
Is it any wonder that we go on strike over their B&H.
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Post by whitemoor66 »

Absoluely disgusting. Have industrial relations moved back to the days of the Penny Black? My condolences to the postman and his family.
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Post by baldrick »

I would have thought that none of those absences would count towards a Stage warning.
Surely he would have got 5 days Special Leave for the death of an immediate relative.
He needs to take a Rep in with him.
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jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo

As much as I hate RM managers, I believe these letters are just sent out as a matter of course. The system throws out these letters from HR and not the managers. Of course the line manager should not issue in the circumstances, but a mate of mine had a heart attack on the shop floor and he got one of these letters. :mfo :cfo :lfo
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Post by pickaname »

Can you get a stage warning for industrial action?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

pickaname wrote:Can you get a stage warning for industrial action?
Don't think so but I do remember that I got list from HR about my unauthorised absences and IA was listed. :hmmmm
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Post by DGP1 »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
pickaname wrote:Can you get a stage warning for industrial action?
Don't think so but I do remember that I got list from HR about my unauthorised absences and IA was listed. :hmmmm
Yeah, me too 'OIA' Was listed I think.
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Post by andy2007 »

They're only supposed to include UNOFFICIAL Industrial Action. Official I/A should be ignored. It'd be worth doublechecking with your Rep, but as far as I know, they're trying it on.
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Post by norbert »

greynut wrote:
jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo

As much as I hate RM managers, I believe these letters are just sent out as a matter of course. The system throws out these letters from HR and not the managers. Of course the line manager should not issue in the circumstances, but a mate of mine had a heart attack on the shop floor and he got one of these letters. :mfo :cfo :lfo
the purpose of HR is to implement policy but who dictates the policy ? :mfo :lfo :cfo - can you really blame all this on a computer ?
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Post by andy2007 »

norbert wrote:
greynut wrote:
jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo

As much as I hate RM managers, I believe these letters are just sent out as a matter of course. The system throws out these letters from HR and not the managers. Of course the line manager should not issue in the circumstances, but a mate of mine had a heart attack on the shop floor and he got one of these letters. :mfo :cfo :lfo
the purpose of HR is to implement policy but who dictates the policy ? :mfo :lfo :cfo - can you really blame all this on a computer ?
This reminds me of a mnemonic I was taught about Computers, many years ago:
Garbage
In
Garbage
Out

I think that GIGO rather sums up this farce, don't you?
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Post by greynut »

norbert wrote:
greynut wrote:
jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo

As much as I hate RM managers, I believe these letters are just sent out as a matter of course. The system throws out these letters from HR and not the managers. Of course the line manager should not issue in the circumstances, but a mate of mine had a heart attack on the shop floor and he got one of these letters. :mfo :cfo :lfo
the purpose of HR is to implement policy but who dictates the policy ? :mfo :lfo :cfo - can you really blame all this on a computer ?

That's not what I said. :no no If your line manager reports you as sick. He reports this to HR. Its irrelevant if its an accident at work or not. (I had an accident at work, it was witnessed etc. But I still got the interview regarding bad attendance.) Then someone in HR inputs this information into the system and the system throws out a letter. This is sent to your line manager. He has not got a clue if you are on a stage or not. Then its up to your line manager to either issue or not issue the stage. If you read the original post I believe this is just another one of these letters churned out by HR.

Its exactly the same for RM, NHS and countless other big organisation's. They all have this stage process. Its sometimes very insensitive and in this instance I dont think the line manager can or will be able to issue a stage. But he/she has to go with the process.
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Post by k979aaa »

greynut wrote:
norbert wrote:
greynut wrote:
jockstrapp wrote:Colleaque has received a letter to attend a meeting where it will be decided whether or not to issue a warning for bad attendance. Reason.....being of a week after fathers death, industrial action,dog bite to leg which required stitches.
Just another example of this caring employer. :no no :no no :no no :cfo

As much as I hate RM managers, I believe these letters are just sent out as a matter of course. The system throws out these letters from HR and not the managers. Of course the line manager should not issue in the circumstances, but a mate of mine had a heart attack on the shop floor and he got one of these letters. :mfo :cfo :lfo
the purpose of HR is to implement policy but who dictates the policy ? :mfo :lfo :cfo - can you really blame all this on a computer ?

That's not what I said. :no no If your line manager reports you as sick. He reports this to HR. Its irrelevant if its an accident at work or not. (I had an accident at work, it was witnessed etc. But I still got the interview regarding bad attendance.) Then someone in HR inputs this information into the system and the system throws out a letter. This is sent to your line manager. He has not got a clue if you are on a stage or not. Then its up to your line manager to either issue or not issue the stage. If you read the original post I believe this is just another one of these letters churned out by HR.

Its exactly the same for RM, NHS and countless other big organisation's. They all have this stage process. Its sometimes very insensitive and in this instance I dont think the line manager can or will be able to issue a stage. But he/she has to go with the process.
The process yes is what i was getting at in my post it seams that even if you can know the system and how it should work it may not work in your favour but against you!. Accidents are covered up contrived as your fault and not of the company and as for strike action they bully boy's and girls of royalmail will try anything once!.
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Post by the one »

HR must be quick then, 2 weeks back 2 of my work colleagues rang the office 5.50 am to say they were off work due to being ill, less than an hour later a postman delivering their address was given a letter to post to them, so it must be automatically on every manager's computer ready to print out,