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WHY ARE WE SO BAD

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johnston65
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WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by johnston65 »

Glasgow Mail Centre has recently been at the centre of a lot of comings and goings with senior management which is now spreading right through the country. Wether these people are liars thieves and scoundrels will be left to others to decide but us as postal workers know that the quality of service figures managers are claiming to be improving know that this is far from the truth. As far as GMC is concerned we see duties being lapsed, overtime not being booked to clear backlogs and the worst case of all is managers doing our work. What the public dont see is mail being backheeled to the next day because duties have not been staffed in the first place, secondly they do not book overtime to clear this mail in order to balance the books (sic ) and lastly and this is one that affects everyone and has to stop is managers sorting mail pushing yorks splitting trays. When this happens we have to start making a stand because these are the people who recently received the big bonuses while we received nothing for supposedly doing a managers job. If thats the case then do a managers job or else out the postworkers up to the same wage as them.Managers are also running around with brushes sweeping up as part of World Class Mail, the cleaners jobs are next.Just how much do these people get paid to steal the jobs of posties and cleaners.Its time to stand up and be counted
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hubbahubba
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by hubbahubba »

johnston65 wrote:Glasgow Mail Centre has recently been at the centre of a lot of comings and goings with senior management which is now spreading right through the country. Wether these people are liars thieves and scoundrels will be left to others to decide but us as postal workers know that the quality of service figures managers are claiming to be improving know that this is far from the truth. As far as GMC is concerned we see duties being lapsed, overtime not being booked to clear backlogs and the worst case of all is managers doing our work. What the public dont see is mail being backheeled to the next day because duties have not been staffed in the first place, secondly they do not book overtime to clear this mail in order to balance the books (sic ) and lastly and this is one that affects everyone and has to stop is managers sorting mail pushing yorks splitting trays. When this happens we have to start making a stand because these are the people who recently received the big bonuses while we received nothing for supposedly doing a managers job. If thats the case then do a managers job or else out the postworkers up to the same wage as them.Managers are also running around with brushes sweeping up as part of World Class Mail, the cleaners jobs are next.Just how much do these people get paid to steal the jobs of posties and cleaners.Its time to stand up and be counted
i heard the phase "world class mail" today at work,can anyone tell me what its all about?cheers :wink:
same as it ever was...
johnston65
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by johnston65 »

WCM is a way of making the job we do more efficient....in others words it is all about cutting jobs
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baldrick
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by baldrick »

Heard that managers from Glasgow and Edinburgh are coming to London to
work in Mail Centres during our strike tomorrow. so they'll be doing our jobs
in London instead of Glasgow. If they're as good as their CMA brethren from
Yorkshire who were working in the London DOs yesterday, I don't think much
will get done.
johnston65
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by johnston65 »

I wouldnt worry about managers from Glasgow coming to do your job as most of them are as thick as dog dung and couldnt sort a letter in the alphabet..but on the other hand give them a brush and boy watch them go....its about all they are good for.
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andy2007
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by andy2007 »

baldrick wrote:Heard that managers from Glasgow and Edinburgh are coming to London to
work in Mail Centres during our strike tomorrow. so they'll be doing our jobs
in London instead of Glasgow. If they're as good as their CMA brethren from
Yorkshire who were working in the London DOs yesterday, I don't think much
will get done.
There's also some coming from Warrington. I think they're geting them from anywhere they can.
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andy2007
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by andy2007 »

johnston65 wrote:WCM is a way of making the job we do more efficient....in others words it is all about cutting jobs
IF it's implemented properly. World Class Mail (WCM), would make the job a lot safer (which is good for us), and more efficient (which is good for RM). Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen.

They imposed WCM on us back in May, and it's not exactly gone well: http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... &hilit=WCM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For a start. RM are refusing to negotiate with the CWU about it's implementation. Which means that there is far too much ambiguity in WCM, which will obviously lead to major problems. Here's just 3 examples:
1) There's so much extra paperwork for some jobs, that they're having to ADD more Staff, to get the job done. I'm not just talking a few extra forms. But a mountain of paperwork for the Quality guys. Yet nothing extra is being checked. Who will get the blame for the increased cost?
US, who else!?!?

2) There's been a major drive to improve safety. Yet, the first of seven "steps", that they're implementing, was actually introduced around 2 1/2 - 3 years ago. But was abused, in order to treat accidents without injuries, as near misses. so that they could cut the accident statistics, without actually improving safety. This has been proven. Before anyone accuses me of making false accusations. :hmmmm

3) The main purpose of WCM, is the mechanisation of most if not all, indoor manual handling tasks. However, they intend to make specific Posties responsible for the day to day maintenance of each machine. For example: 3 Shifts = 3 Posties responsible for 1 FLT, Scud, etc.. Right down to keeping it clean, and free from scratches on the paintwork.

Now as I'm sure most of you will be aware. Particularly if you click on the link above. The CWU has recommended that we take no active part in WCM, until there is an agreement with them. However, some people were tricked into thinking that it HAD been agreed, and are now being pressurised into continuing to co-operate. Which is further confused, by the fact that locally, the CWU has said that anyone who really wants to take part in WCM, can do, without being criticised by them. WTF! That's given Management the leverage they needed, to keep those who were originally tricked, involved!!!!! :arrrghhh :no no :arrrghhh

The whole thing is a complete mess, and there seems to be no end to it! It's just so frustrating! Why can't they just get round the table, and negotiate a way of getting this implemented properly, or completely dropped. Because the current situation is farcical!!!!!
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underpaidoverwalked
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by underpaidoverwalked »

johnston65 wrote:Glasgow Mail Centre has recently been at the centre of a lot of comings and goings with senior management which is now spreading right through the country. Wether these people are liars thieves and scoundrels will be left to others to decide but us as postal workers know that the quality of service figures managers are claiming to be improving know that this is far from the truth. As far as GMC is concerned we see duties being lapsed, overtime not being booked to clear backlogs and the worst case of all is managers doing our work. What the public dont see is mail being backheeled to the next day because duties have not been staffed in the first place, secondly they do not book overtime to clear this mail in order to balance the books (sic ) and lastly and this is one that affects everyone and has to stop is managers sorting mail pushing yorks splitting trays. When this happens we have to start making a stand because these are the people who recently received the big bonuses while we received nothing for supposedly doing a managers job. If thats the case then do a managers job or else out the postworkers up to the same wage as them.Managers are also running around with brushes sweeping up as part of World Class Mail, the cleaners jobs are next.Just how much do these people get paid to steal the jobs of posties and cleaners.Its time to stand up and be counted
its not just glasgow gl post code it ml 2 :shock:
Jennifer
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by Jennifer »

HUBBAHUBBA

You are totally rumbled. Clearly part of my team.
norbert
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by norbert »

Jennifer wrote:HUBBAHUBBA

You are totally rumbled. Clearly part of my team.
very " Hellmail " or PMC circa 2007
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by DGP1 »

Jennifer wrote:HUBBAHUBBA

You are totally rumbled. Clearly part of my team.
Are you a manager in Glasgow MC? What's it like being so alone :chuckle :chuckle
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BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

Jennifer wrote:HUBBAHUBBA

You are totally rumbled. Clearly part of my team.
C'mon Andy 2007 thats clearly intimidation and a veiled threat to a member, bit more serious than repeating stuff from the dailys that may possibly offend a relative who might be browsing this site on the off chance for no good reason at all. Still its your ball
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Post by BELIAL »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:]

Are you a manager in Glasgow MC? What's it like being so alone :chuckle :chuckle
Did you check out her previous posts? Constructive ,informative and supportive :left: :left:with no censorship :hmmmm
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norbert
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Re: WHY ARE WE SO BAD

Post by norbert »

BELIAL wrote:
Jennifer wrote:HUBBAHUBBA

You are totally rumbled. Clearly part of my team.
C'mon Andy 2007 thats clearly intimidation and a veiled threat to a member, bit more serious than repeating stuff from the dailys that may possibly offend a relative who might be browsing this site on the off chance for no good reason at all. Still its your ball
Supposed you have to be with :cfo breathing down your neck , too obvious and laid on too thick , they come and go :Very Happy - the best one was the 11th hour bid to stop strike by a individual who just happened to google RM :left:
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Post by BELIAL »

Quite agree Norbs but predictably there's a lot more of them coming now,and it seems they've got a guardian
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