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freshness

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
tiredwalker
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Re: freshness

Post by tiredwalker »

Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)

Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
krussel
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Re: freshness

Post by krussel »

tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)

Maybe we will get a few more clues today?

It would be nice to find out what it means as i got the "freshness" reply from postie1973 to my post in the "postman in general" thread and could not work out what it meant either :sad: Ithink i am getting too old i will have to let my 13 year old step daughter read it :roll:
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
postie1973
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Re: freshness

Post by postie1973 »

tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)

Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.
tiredwalker
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Re: freshness

Post by tiredwalker »

Ok def a generalization then! I'm pt and do the job properly. Well since last sept anyway when I woke up.
k979aaa
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Re: freshness

Post by k979aaa »

postie1973 wrote:
tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)

Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.
That is expansive enough for me!. :Applause :Applause :Applause
Barry Trotter
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Re: freshness

Post by Barry Trotter »

I is as fresh as da come.
I am a postman and I kept the faith and I kept voting, not for new labour but for the working man.
baldrick
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: freshness

Post by baldrick »

Wish I was still fresh. :sad:
krussel
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Re: freshness

Post by krussel »

k979aaa wrote:
postie1973 wrote:
tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)

Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.
That is expansive enough for me!. :Applause :Applause :Applause

Ah now i see :Very Happy

I was once fresh to the job and dumb as well, all a good few years ago. Two things opened my eyes to the dangers of charging around to make time and cutting the job up
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The first was when i had my car (well even worse my borrowed girlfriends car) broken into and smashed apart to steal the mail. This was followed by a disipline hearing which i was made to feel that i was lucky to keep my job :shock: . After that i never used a car again.

Secondly was later on when i picked a new duty one year which had been delivered by a runner who had always started 45 min early each day and used his car. No matter how i tried (jesus did i try) or how early i came in it was impossible to complete the delivery within time by using a bike and all i got in return was hassle by the managers for being in their eyes slow :sad: I managed to get another duty after 6 hard months and the next guy had no better luck. In the end they took a couple of roads off. It was a miserable time knowing each day that you were going to have to break off and face harrasment back at the office. :sad:

I felt that i had been stitched up by the runner (who thought it was really funny) and decided i would not do the same to anyone else and thus stopped coming in half hour early. I think we all start out fresh but after we have been in the job a while and often learn to our own cost how RM "REALLY" works we hopefully change for the better. :Very Happy
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Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
baldrick
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Re: freshness

Post by baldrick »

:Applause :Applause :Applause Good post krussel.
krussel
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Re: freshness

Post by krussel »

baldrick wrote::Applause :Applause :Applause Good post krussel.
Thanks baldrick..
Its quite simply the way the job has altered that have forced people to change and do the job properly. There are one or two in my office (and it seems a few on here) who can still cut corners and take risks to make themselves some time and its their choice to do so, fair enough, but it will not last forever. :no no .
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
NewPostieUK
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Re: freshness

Post by NewPostieUK »

Does anyone think there is too much freshness amongst the full timers?

I went in on time yesterday, did my redirections bang on time, handed a couple to a full timer who wasn't far away from me, and he rolls his eyes and tuts! He looks at his empty frame, then at the letters as if to say what am I supposed to do with these?

I managed to refrain from telling him exactly where to put them. He then left, a good 50 mins early.

Halfway through my walk, I see another full timer pulling up outside his house, finished!

These full timers need to think carefully about how they are spoiling it for everyone.
kanuuuuuu
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Re: freshness

Post by kanuuuuuu »

it always helps to know that youre in the right, if people want to rush its their problem when they get redirections handed to them when theyve already bagged up. I wouldnt worry about it or people finishing early (i take it theyre rushing around), just do your job right and youll be fine !
dvbuk55
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Re: freshness

Post by dvbuk55 »

kanuuuuuu wrote:it always helps to know that youre in the right, if people want to rush its their problem when they get redirections handed to them when theyve already bagged up. I wouldnt worry about it or people finishing early (i take it theyre rushing around), just do your job right and youll be fine !
Redirections are a next day delivery - as anyone should know - redirections are done centrally and not handed to the postman, they would then be sorted to the relevant frame for next day delivery not same day delivery. Take for example a redirection for an area outside your responsibility it is delayed because it has been redirected and the same criteria applies to the redirection service in general.
kanuuuuuu
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Re: freshness

Post by kanuuuuuu »

very true, altho try telling our line managers that theyre next day :shock:
krussel
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Re: freshness

Post by krussel »

kanuuuuuu wrote:very true, altho try telling our line managers that theyre next day :shock:
Yep we get the same, if you get handed a redirection and is local you have to treat it like a late missort and take it. :crazy:
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........