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freshness
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tiredwalker
- Posts: 248
- Joined: 16 Dec 2008, 15:48
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
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krussel
- Posts: 5300
- Joined: 26 Jan 2009, 18:03
- Gender: Male
- Location: Out on the streets.
Re: freshness
tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
It would be nice to find out what it means as i got the "freshness" reply from postie1973 to my post in the "postman in general" thread and could not work out what it meant either
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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postie1973
- Posts: 18
- Joined: 21 Apr 2009, 20:53
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.
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tiredwalker
- Posts: 248
- Joined: 16 Dec 2008, 15:48
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
Ok def a generalization then! I'm pt and do the job properly. Well since last sept anyway when I woke up.
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
- Gender: Male
- Location: THE NORTH
Re: freshness
That is expansive enough for me!.postie1973 wrote:your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.
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Barry Trotter
- Posts: 204
- Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 09:40
- Location: steepasfuckistan
Re: freshness
I is as fresh as da come.
I am a postman and I kept the faith and I kept voting, not for new labour but for the working man.
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baldrick
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 5038
- Joined: 13 Sep 2007, 23:37
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
Wish I was still fresh. 
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krussel
- Posts: 5300
- Joined: 26 Jan 2009, 18:03
- Gender: Male
- Location: Out on the streets.
Re: freshness
k979aaa wrote:That is expansive enough for me!.postie1973 wrote:your right tierd starting early,using cars,working days off. wish they would all open there eyes and see the bigger piccy.tiredwalker wrote:Could the original question be a generalisation asking whether so many part time new starters are not seeing the big picture of how their actions are affecting the whole workforce. (I long shot and big generalisation I know but who knows!)
Maybe we will get a few more clues today?
then they moan but doms and wonder why we r getting shfted everyday.now there moaning about summer lapsing.no wonder as the r griving management hours of unpaid work in the morning. WAKEY WAKEY.![]()
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Ah now i see
I was once fresh to the job and dumb as well, all a good few years ago. Two things opened my eyes to the dangers of charging around to make time and cutting the job up
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The first was when i had my car (well even worse my borrowed girlfriends car) broken into and smashed apart to steal the mail. This was followed by a disipline hearing which i was made to feel that i was lucky to keep my job
Secondly was later on when i picked a new duty one year which had been delivered by a runner who had always started 45 min early each day and used his car. No matter how i tried (jesus did i try) or how early i came in it was impossible to complete the delivery within time by using a bike and all i got in return was hassle by the managers for being in their eyes slow
I felt that i had been stitched up by the runner (who thought it was really funny) and decided i would not do the same to anyone else and thus stopped coming in half hour early. I think we all start out fresh but after we have been in the job a while and often learn to our own cost how RM "REALLY" works we hopefully change for the better.
Last edited by krussel on 08 Jun 2009, 12:10, edited 1 time in total.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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baldrick
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 5038
- Joined: 13 Sep 2007, 23:37
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
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krussel
- Posts: 5300
- Joined: 26 Jan 2009, 18:03
- Gender: Male
- Location: Out on the streets.
Re: freshness
Thanks baldrick..baldrick wrote:![]()
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Good post krussel.
Its quite simply the way the job has altered that have forced people to change and do the job properly. There are one or two in my office (and it seems a few on here) who can still cut corners and take risks to make themselves some time and its their choice to do so, fair enough, but it will not last forever.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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NewPostieUK
- Posts: 2104
- Joined: 06 Jan 2008, 21:38
- Gender: Male
- Location: SickAsAChipLand
Re: freshness
Does anyone think there is too much freshness amongst the full timers?
I went in on time yesterday, did my redirections bang on time, handed a couple to a full timer who wasn't far away from me, and he rolls his eyes and tuts! He looks at his empty frame, then at the letters as if to say what am I supposed to do with these?
I managed to refrain from telling him exactly where to put them. He then left, a good 50 mins early.
Halfway through my walk, I see another full timer pulling up outside his house, finished!
These full timers need to think carefully about how they are spoiling it for everyone.
I went in on time yesterday, did my redirections bang on time, handed a couple to a full timer who wasn't far away from me, and he rolls his eyes and tuts! He looks at his empty frame, then at the letters as if to say what am I supposed to do with these?
I managed to refrain from telling him exactly where to put them. He then left, a good 50 mins early.
Halfway through my walk, I see another full timer pulling up outside his house, finished!
These full timers need to think carefully about how they are spoiling it for everyone.
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kanuuuuuu
- Posts: 266
- Joined: 20 Sep 2007, 15:01
Re: freshness
it always helps to know that youre in the right, if people want to rush its their problem when they get redirections handed to them when theyve already bagged up. I wouldnt worry about it or people finishing early (i take it theyre rushing around), just do your job right and youll be fine !
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: freshness
Redirections are a next day delivery - as anyone should know - redirections are done centrally and not handed to the postman, they would then be sorted to the relevant frame for next day delivery not same day delivery. Take for example a redirection for an area outside your responsibility it is delayed because it has been redirected and the same criteria applies to the redirection service in general.kanuuuuuu wrote:it always helps to know that youre in the right, if people want to rush its their problem when they get redirections handed to them when theyve already bagged up. I wouldnt worry about it or people finishing early (i take it theyre rushing around), just do your job right and youll be fine !
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kanuuuuuu
- Posts: 266
- Joined: 20 Sep 2007, 15:01
Re: freshness
very true, altho try telling our line managers that theyre next day 
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krussel
- Posts: 5300
- Joined: 26 Jan 2009, 18:03
- Gender: Male
- Location: Out on the streets.
Re: freshness
Yep we get the same, if you get handed a redirection and is local you have to treat it like a late missort and take it.kanuuuuuu wrote:very true, altho try telling our line managers that theyre next day
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........