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Executive action hits London

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andy2007
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by andy2007 »

Dingo, it's not that we're having trouble seeing past the Pay and Modernisation Agreement (in my opinion). It's the fact that some aspects of it, are still being phased in. So it's continuing to cause problems.

Also, as I said in my earlier post: There are a lot of people who were disheartened by the problems with the '07 dispute. I know that a lot was achieved, and I'm convinced that things would have been far worse, if we hadn't gone out. But correct me if I'm wrong: But isn't it that lack of confidence from the "Rank and File", that stopped the CWU Balloting the whole Country, rather than just London? :hmmmm Then of course, there's the people who have actually left the CWU, that we need to get back.

I do realise that communications need to go through several stages at the moment. But as you said yourself: THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

What we need, is for the CWU to change that, so that we can be "kept in the loop". And for us to all have the ability to provide feedback quickly. Just as we do on here. It's fairly obvious to the regulars on here, that there are several high ranking Reps on here. And it's greatly appreciated. There is even one, who has anounced his true identity, in another Thread (which of course is his right). But why won't HQ allow you to do exactly what you're doing on here "officially"?
It was only due to a small number of brave people "in the know", in '07. That we had any idea what was happening. The official CWU line, was that there had to be secrecy.

Although they are now trying to keep us informed. The information is often late, and doesn't allow us the option to reply quickly. What good is communication, if it's mostly one sided? :hmmmm
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by dvbuk55 »

As an adjunct to what Andy is saying about communication - Royal Mail was spouting information left, right and centre when the 2007 agreement was in negotiation and that still goes on today. In some instances the membership don't know if they are on their a*se or their elbow because very often the Rep is no wiser either.
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by Martin Walsh »

London are holding a meeting off all unit reps and members at central Hall SW1 to ensure that we get the biggest yes vote possible.

Speakers to address the meeting in order are :

Martin Walsh London Div Rep

Terry Pullenger Asst Sec

Bob Gibson Asst Sec

Mark Palfrey London Div Rep

Dave Ward DGSP

Mark Baulch NEC

The meeting starts at 14 30 and all reps and members are invited. Posters have already been sent out and we are expecting a good attendance.

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Post by DGP1 »

The meeting starts at 14 30 and all reps and members are invited
That doesn't really give people a lot of time to finish their duties and get down for the meeting.
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by BELIAL »

Unless it's on a Sunday :chuckle Failing that, 15 mins to get there :nervous
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by shimmyrule »

theres nae danger the london boys work to 14 30 lol :Very Happy

Thats what theyre worried aboot :cool
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by Martin Walsh »

Belial there were 150 reps and members who attended the meeting at central hall. We in London are all systems go for every office in London being balloted the membership records checking is almost complete and then we shall be in position to send notice to the employer.

Our result will be known in every office in time for causing some problems with the euro elections in June. Our tactic is simple we are striking to fight for the future.

At a meeting of all Divisonal reps tommorrow we expect each divison will also announce which offices and maybe branch`s which they want balloted for strike action in pursance for a national agreement.

I have been involved in organising more strikes both unofficial and official then I care to remember. But this is crunch time !! If you believe in a union then you must fight to force Royal Mail to an agreement which protects full time jobs , makes Royal Mail pay for change and provides a long term future for mail centres , distrubution , RDCs, deliveries and proffesional drivers.
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by lekker »

Well said Brother Dingo :mfo :cfo
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by borders »

amen Dingo :Applause
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Post by Sandyman »

:dance :Applause
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by robd »

Thanks for keeping us informed Dingo.
fatherchristmas
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by fatherchristmas »

Executive action in london does that include offices tha get outer london weighting to be balloted :mfo :cfo :mfo :mfo
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by rockytony67 »

fatherchristmas wrote:Executive action in london does that include offices tha get outer london weighting to be balloted :mfo :cfo :mfo :mfo
Yes it's all London offices, most London offices get outer London weighting.
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by Martin Walsh »

Its all the offices within the London Divison so all London postcode areas. Those offices which are within the London region like Greenford , Romford , watford , Croydon , Kingston , Enfield who recieve outer london weighting but are not in the London division will not at the moment be balloted.

However at a meeting of Divisional Reps from every division in the UK a number of other offices will now be balloted on the same question as London about Royal Mail breaking national agreements and in pursuance of a national agreement on the future.

Other areas around the country will follow and we know the resullts of the 4 offices in scotland who reuslts were declared today were very good yes votes.

At a meeting tommorrow of all London Branchs the London timetable will be announced tomorrow and we are talking days not weeks before Royal Mail recive notice.

A message to all on here this is a fight for the future. Dont let others fight it for you badger your reps and branch whereever you are to join the fight for a national agreement.
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Re: Executive action hits London

Post by BELIAL »

dingo wrote:Belial there were 150 reps and members who attended the meeting at central hall. We in London are all systems go for every office in London being balloted the membership records checking is almost complete and then we shall be in position to send notice to the employer.

Our result will be known in every office in time for causing some problems with the euro elections in June. Our tactic is simple we are striking to fight for the future.

At a meeting of all Divisonal reps tommorrow we expect each divison will also announce which offices and maybe branch`s which they want balloted for strike action in pursance for a national agreement.

I have been involved in organising more strikes both unofficial and official then I care to remember. But this is crunch time !! If you believe in a union then you must fight to force Royal Mail to an agreement which protects full time jobs , makes Royal Mail pay for change and provides a long term future for mail centres , distrubution , RDCs, deliveries and proffesional drivers.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated . It has already proved useful today with four workmates who were wondering what was going on given all these management attacks.So now we go 4x4 :Very Happy
Any mention of getting our pensions restored at this meeting?
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