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A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Lets not get carried away with a misplaced opinion that we are skilled workers - for sure if you shaved a chimp and bunged an RM uniform on it, stuck it in a delivery office for 3 months it would soon make a line manager :left:
Funny how it always happens to all the one's who cannot get their fingers out of their arseholes. :chuckle :chuckle
No it's not funny - it is actually planned - chimp, gillette, shaving foam, basic grunt vocabulary et voila line manager - soon to be DOM, though that requires training with a crayon :wink:
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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dvbuk55 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Lets not get carried away with a misplaced opinion that we are skilled workers - for sure if you shaved a chimp and bunged an RM uniform on it, stuck it in a delivery office for 3 months it would soon make a line manager :left:
Funny how it always happens to all the one's who cannot get their fingers out of their arseholes. :chuckle :chuckle
No it's not funny - it is actually planned - chimp, gillette, shaving foam, basic grunt vocabulary et voila line manager - soon to be DOM, though that requires training with a crayon :wink:
I always thought the crayon was advanced training that could only be completed by potential super DOMs.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Lets not get carried away with a misplaced opinion that we are skilled workers - for sure if you shaved a chimp and bunged an RM uniform on it, stuck it in a delivery office for 3 months it would soon make a line manager :left:
Funny how it always happens to all the one's who cannot get their fingers out of their arseholes. :chuckle :chuckle
No it's not funny - it is actually planned - chimp, gillette, shaving foam, basic grunt vocabulary et voila line manager - soon to be DOM, though that requires training with a crayon :wink:
I always thought the crayon was advanced training that could only be completed by potential super DOMs.
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Where did you get the photo - if that's not my DOM it's his twin.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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dvbuk55 wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Lets not get carried away with a misplaced opinion that we are skilled workers - for sure if you shaved a chimp and bunged an RM uniform on it, stuck it in a delivery office for 3 months it would soon make a line manager :left:
Funny how it always happens to all the one's who cannot get their fingers out of their arseholes. :chuckle :chuckle
No it's not funny - it is actually planned - chimp, gillette, shaving foam, basic grunt vocabulary et voila line manager - soon to be DOM, though that requires training with a crayon :wink:
I always thought the crayon was advanced training that could only be completed by potential super DOMs.
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Where did you get the photo - if that's not my DOM it's his twin.
He's my DOM, they must have a cloning facility somewhere producing them en masse :crazy:
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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We had respect from the public once until RM and the media made us into an idiot figure.
trusted employees who looked after private mails and money.

Now they have made the job less appealing, a damn sight harder and their screening less thorough the people attracted are shall we say--less desirable.
when we had a good service we had many skills such as despatching outward sorting etc etc but Rm seem to have destroyed that when we were de-nationalised and became a profit orientated concern.
I have many skills outside of RM thanks and have a high IQ, more than a lot of managers who can only revert to pushing yorks or do Post peoples work.
Who is skilled now then????
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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:hmmmm I'd guess the whole of humanity could run 100m, after a fashion ;not many could do it in 9.5 secs :chuckle :chuckle Is that a skill?
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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and have a high IQ, more than a lot of managers
I know glasses of water with higher IQs than my managers :shock: :nervous

My last IQ test result was 116 :sad: the one previous was 121 :hmmmm
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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BELIAL wrote::hmmmm I'd guess the whole of humanity could run 100m, after a fashion ;not many could do it in 9.5 secs :chuckle :chuckle Is that a skill?
No - that's a gift.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
and have a high IQ, more than a lot of managers
I know glasses of water with higher IQs than my managers :shock: :nervous

My last IQ test result was 116 :sad: the one previous was 121 :hmmmm
Mine was off the scale - mind you that was at the low end. In fact the bloke asked if I'd started - bit like Mrs Dv
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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dvbuk55 wrote:
BELIAL wrote::hmmmm I'd guess the whole of humanity could run 100m, after a fashion ;not many could do it in 9.5 secs :chuckle :chuckle Is that a skill?
No - that's a gift.
Fraid not ,no infants can do it,takes a lot of repetetive training :cry
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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Tman wrote:
Just because some people earn a lot of money, they think they're better than us. Both academically, and in their contribution to the Country. I'm quite sure that Stock Brokers, consider themselves to be Skilled


I bet they don't!.... :left:


Obviously, there are a lot of jobs, which require specialist skills: Chemists; Doctors; Surgeons; Teachers; Systems Analysts; etc.. And they should be given the credit they deserve. But that doesn't mean that we're not Skilled. Instead of trying to come up with another term for Unskilled. We should be thinking of a new term, to distinguish between Highly Skilled (e.g. Surgeon), and Skilled.
A surgeon may be "highly skilled" but he's classed as a professional, as are doctors etc. There's no need to think up any new terms, as they've got all the classifications they're ever going to need, but the classification "unskilled" is and always will be bottom of the pile.
It's the age old equation; education + effort = bigger pay packet. Simple, eh?
How does that explain Stockbrokers?
20 years ago, they were all getting extremely rich, and showing off thier 911s, and Mobile Phones (quite a status symbol at the time). Yet, look at them now! Even you, don't consider them to be skilled. Yet, they still earn large amounts of money for gambling.

How does it explain Junior Doctors, and Nurses?
They are highly skilled. Yet they do long hours, for little more money than we earn!

Your theory simply doesn't hold up, in my opinion.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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How does that explain Stockbrokers?
20 years ago, they were all getting extremely rich, and showing off thier 911s, and Mobile Phones (quite a status symbol at the time). Yet, look at them now! Even you, don't consider them to be skilled.
I didn't say that. I said they wouldn't be classed as "skilled". This classification traditionally means blue collar manual workers with brains and ability.Hardly stockbroker stuff.
Your theory simply doesn't hold up, in my opinion.
No surprise there then, but hardly "my theory". Seems like you just want to think of a complimentary term for the unskilled to me, and ignore the generally-held classifications.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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Tman wrote:
How does that explain Stockbrokers?
20 years ago, they were all getting extremely rich, and showing off thier 911s, and Mobile Phones (quite a status symbol at the time). Yet, look at them now! Even you, don't consider them to be skilled.
I didn't say that. I said they wouldn't be classed as "skilled". This classification traditionally means blue collar manual workers with brains and ability.Hardly stockbroker stuff.
Your theory simply doesn't hold up, in my opinion.
No surprise there then, but hardly "my theory". Seems like you just want to think of a complimentary term for the unskilled to me, and ignore the generally-held classifications.
Not ignore - change - at least that was my intention when I started this thread.

Unskilled is seen as derogatory by some as it can be used as a put down. Any suggestions.
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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Who knows indeed, Links, but as long as you're LOLing again then I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you. :wave
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Re: A NEW TERM FOR UNSKILLED

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Are NVQs classed as a skill I wonder - not that I have any, unless chimp shaving counts.