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help with grievance
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graffi
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help with grievance
ive put a grievance in against my shift manager ,,, and i have an interview with a graduate manager next week ,,,my question is can a manager of a lower grade than the shift manager hear my grievance ?? my rep says no the graduate says yes ?????? 
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brothermagrew
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Re: help with grievance
Don't know if you will find your immediate answer here but regardless it should give you some guidance.graffi wrote:ive put a grievance in against my shift manager ,,, and i have an interview with a graduate manager next week ,,,my question is can a manager of a lower grade than the shift manager hear my grievance ?? my rep says no the graduate says yes ??????
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graffi
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Re: help with grievance
thanks will try ring HR on monday ,,i cant see how a graduate manager can do it when he seeks advice from the manager involved in my grievance , surely he cant overturn a desision his manager makes?? 
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apple
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Re: help with grievance
been through the same thing with a disagreement and we made that precise point, how can they find against a decision that a higher level manager has made and has the career prospects of the less senior manager in his hands?
they said that that was not an issue and if they thought it was a valid case they would up hold what they thought was right
needless to say the less senior managers never found against the more senior manager and as that was the area manager what chance you got?
they said that that was not an issue and if they thought it was a valid case they would up hold what they thought was right
needless to say the less senior managers never found against the more senior manager and as that was the area manager what chance you got?
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wranglered
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Re: help with grievance
they will do it graffi..they did it to me...just get ready to appeal his inevitable rejection of your claim and cite his incompetence and inexperience...graffi wrote:thanks will try ring HR on monday ,,i cant see how a graduate manager can do it when he seeks advice from the manager involved in my grievance , surely he cant overturn a desision his manager makes??
...then you move to stage 2....and don't forget...they cannot discipline you for raising a grievance, UNLIKE the bullying and harassment procedure...
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graffi
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Re: help with grievance
thanks for the advice its nice to know help is out there in such a trying time ,,, 
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wolfie citizen smith
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Re: help with grievance
Anyone who would have an unbias view on things would be ok. I feel that your rep has no knowledge of this manager which makes him suspicious however you seem to have a better case this waygraffi wrote:ive put a grievance in against my shift manager ,,, and i have an interview with a graduate manager next week ,,,my question is can a manager of a lower grade than the shift manager hear my grievance ?? my rep says no the graduate says yes ??????
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graffi
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Re: help with grievance
working for royal mail is like a tv soap ,,,ive just found out that my grievance paperwork was found in the toilets at work !!! am waiting on comformation !!
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bogstandard
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Re: help with grievance
Now you have the opportunity to pursue it on the grounds of confidentiality and secrecy, or lack of should i say.graffi wrote:working for royal mail is like a tv soap ,,,ive just found out that my grievance paperwork was found in the toilets at work !!! am waiting on comformation !!
Confused... You won't be, after the next episode of. SOAP
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graffi
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Re: help with grievance
unbelivable to say the least :
,,i'd like to know who had a good look at it ??
,hope it wasn't the shift manager i put it in against lol think the shyts gona hit the fan
been nice working for royal mail 
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sausage
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Re: help with grievance
wranglered wrote:they will do it graffi..they did it to me...just get ready to appeal his inevitable rejection of your claim and cite his incompetence and inexperience...graffi wrote:thanks will try ring HR on monday ,,i cant see how a graduate manager can do it when he seeks advice from the manager involved in my grievance , surely he cant overturn a desision his manager makes??
...then you move to stage 2....and don't forget...they cannot discipline you for raising a grievance, UNLIKE the bullying and harassment procedure...
If its against your shift manager and not your line manager it should be straight to stage 2 anyhow
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norbert
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Re: help with grievance
everything gets turned into a soap opera , If you've not been in The Services , Public School or Prison you'd think you'd walked onto another planet . Too much politicsgraffi wrote:working for royal mail is like a tv soap ,,,ive just found out that my grievance paperwork was found in the toilets at work !!! am waiting on comformation !!
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k979aaa
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Re: help with grievance
norbert I completely agree for i was never political at work but trouble always seams to find me and the politics of royalmail management would make the NAZI party look like a conservative party broadcast!.norbert wrote:everything gets turned into a soap opera , If you've not been in The Services , Public School or Prison you'd think you'd walked onto another planet . Too much politicsgraffi wrote:working for royal mail is like a tv soap ,,,ive just found out that my grievance paperwork was found in the toilets at work !!! am waiting on comformation !!RM places are institutions , there is a lot of people who should never be let out of them .
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graffi
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Re: help with grievance
was told last by the managment it was true 
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sausage
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Re: help with grievance
Have you spoken to HR yet? What have they said?? Did you send it away to Rugby?sausage wrote:wranglered wrote:they will do it graffi..they did it to me...just get ready to appeal his inevitable rejection of your claim and cite his incompetence and inexperience...graffi wrote:thanks will try ring HR on monday ,,i cant see how a graduate manager can do it when he seeks advice from the manager involved in my grievance , surely he cant overturn a desision his manager makes??
...then you move to stage 2....and don't forget...they cannot discipline you for raising a grievance, UNLIKE the bullying and harassment procedure...
If its against your shift manager and not your line manager it should be straight to stage 2 anyhow