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shorter week instead of pay rise

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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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Lounge Lizard wrote:A shorter working week, from 40 to 35 hours, would mean coming in an hour later not going home an hour earlier, which would be of little if any benefit to those of us awake early morning anyway.
And what do you do whenever you finish :hmmmm is it anything that can't be done 1 hour later? I personally like the extra time in bed and would look forward to more.
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A shorter working week, from 40 to 35 hours, would mean coming in an hour later not going home an hour earlier, which would be of little if any benefit to those of us awake early morning anyway.
And what do you do whenever you finish :hmmmm is it anything that can't be done 1 hour later? I personally like the extra time in bed and would look forward to more.
Well, yes, you can't please everybody.
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A shorter working week, from 40 to 35 hours, would mean coming in an hour later not going home an hour earlier, which would be of little if any benefit to those of us awake early morning anyway.
And what do you do whenever you finish :hmmmm is it anything that can't be done 1 hour later? I personally like the extra time in bed and would look forward to more.
Is that more time in bed or more something else - you naughty person :wink:
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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dvbuk55 wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A shorter working week, from 40 to 35 hours, would mean coming in an hour later not going home an hour earlier, which would be of little if any benefit to those of us awake early morning anyway.
And what do you do whenever you finish :hmmmm is it anything that can't be done 1 hour later? I personally like the extra time in bed and would look forward to more.
Is that more time in bed or more something else - you naughty person :wink:
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A shorter working week, from 40 to 35 hours, would mean coming in an hour later not going home an hour earlier, which would be of little if any benefit to those of us awake early morning anyway.
And what do you do whenever you finish :hmmmm is it anything that can't be done 1 hour later? I personally like the extra time in bed and would look forward to more.
Is that more time in bed or more something else - you naughty person :wink:
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LOL
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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This is a scam isn't it? We come in an hour later to the same volume of work and are expected to sort and walk faster to finish at the usual time? How does that benifit us? If u are sitting round for an hour after tying up and before going out, it's good but if u are already working all your hours this will just scam u into doing the same job in less time for no extra pay!
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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opgpat wrote:This is a scam isn't it? We come in an hour later to the same volume of work and are expected to sort and walk faster to finish at the usual time? How does that benifit us? If u are sitting round for an hour after tying up and before going out, it's good but if u are already working all your hours this will just scam u into doing the same job in less time for no extra pay!


Well as volumes of mail are falling and IPS is less and walk sorted flats become the norm - the hour will be saved without the work.
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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dvbuk55 wrote:
opgpat wrote:This is a scam isn't it? We come in an hour later to the same volume of work and are expected to sort and walk faster to finish at the usual time? How does that benifit us? If u are sitting round for an hour after tying up and before going out, it's good but if u are already working all your hours this will just scam u into doing the same job in less time for no extra pay!


Well as volumes of mail are falling and IPS is less and walk sorted flats become the norm - the hour will be saved without the work.
Maybe, but Royal Mail will constantly be trying to reduce our hourly rate, so a reduction in hours will over the next few years result in a reduction in pay.
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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An unpaid meal relief will only result in even more people NOT taking a break! And less insistence from management that it is taken.
How would this system work for part time staff on 24, 30 or 32 hour contracts? Would they simply lose the time paid for the meal relief (30 hour contracts get 30 mins a day or 2.5 hours a week, not exactly a reduction in their working week then, if they are working the same hours but with no paid meal relief).
I've a better suggestion, 35 hour week for all, with paid meal relief and pay rise above inflation, remember last year...inflation over 5%, how much worse off are we actually now compared to 2 or 3 years ago!
RM made over 280 million in profit for 9 months, they can damn well afford a pay rise and not just for Mr Crozier!
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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pinstripe wrote:An unpaid meal relief will only result in even more people NOT taking a break! And less insistence from management that it is taken.
How would this system work for part time staff on 24, 30 or 32 hour contracts? Would they simply lose the time paid for the meal relief (30 hour contracts get 30 mins a day or 2.5 hours a week, not exactly a reduction in their working week then, if they are working the same hours but with no paid meal relief).
I've a better suggestion, 35 hour week for all, with paid meal relief and pay rise above inflation, remember last year...inflation over 5%, how much worse off are we actually now compared to 2 or 3 years ago!
RM made over 280 million in profit for 9 months, they can damn well afford a pay rise and not just for Mr Crozier!
They should be able to afford a pay rise if they get £3 billlion from the sell off
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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dont trust rm they never give anything away just one of the cons they come out with all the time 80 per cent of the office thinks its good vote it in then regret it when its to late
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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carpbarbel wrote:dont trust rm they never give anything away just one of the cons they come out with all the time 80 per cent of the office thinks its good vote it in then regret it when its to late
Just like the Way Forward, SDD, the 2007 Pay and Modernisation Agreement. Is there still anyone who will admit to voting for any of these?
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Re: shorter week instead of pay rise

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pinstripe wrote:
carpbarbel wrote:dont trust rm they never give anything away just one of the cons they come out with all the time 80 per cent of the office thinks its good vote it in then regret it when its to late
Just like the Way Forward, SDD, the 2007 Pay and Modernisation Agreement. Is there still anyone who will admit to voting for any of these?
Well I voted against Pay and Mod and in fact made that public on here.

As for the other 2 I did not vote - but before you hang me I was not working in RM when they were voted in, though with SDD I would have voted against it. Not sure about the "Way Forward Agreement" as I don't have the personal knowledge of what it was like before .
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