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Post employees would be affected by language legislation

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -22838927/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SOUTH Wales’ postmen and women would be among the thousands of workers affected by any new language legislation.

As bodies that provide key public services, the Royal Mail and the Post Office would be covered by any Welsh Measures drawn up by the Assembly Government.

A spokeswoman for the Royal Mail Group said it was already committed to providing a “comprehensive, bilingual service to its customers”, but said it would prefer for this to continue on the current voluntary basis.

She said: “Like most businesses, we would have preferred the voluntary arrangement that has delivered this good service all these years. However, we do not expect the new arrangements to cause us any significant problems.”

The organisation has been developing bilingual services for a decade through its Welsh language scheme.

Telecoms workers for BT and utilities workers at British Gas would also be affected by any legislation resulting from yesterday’s Legislative Competence Order (LCO).

Wales’ director for BT, Ann Beynon, said the company was already committed to the Welsh language.

She said: “The services we provide are on a voluntary basis and we do not believe it would be helpful to enforce requirements on businesses by way of legislation.”

A spokesman for British Gas added: “We will scrutinise the LCO details and maintain a constructive dialogue with the Assembly Government. Our commitment to providing Welsh language services to customers continues.”
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I'm not bilingual.............................I only like women :chuckle :chuckle

Seriously though, I can see them trying to force multilingual on us over here (Irish I can sort of understand but Ulster Scots :shock: :shock: :crazy: )
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The only Irish Gaelic I know is

Séamus an Chaca -

now if I could find the Irish versions of Adam, Allan and Peter we would be laughing.
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http://www.ireland-information.com/irishphrases.htm

PHRASE: Is cuma liom!
PRONOUNCED: is cumma lum
MEANING: I dont care!

PHRASE: Go hifreann leat!
PRONOUNCED: Guh hee-fran lath
MEANING: To hell with you!

PHRASE: Ni ceart go cur le cheile
PRONOUNCED: knee keart guh kurr leh kail-eh
MEANING: There is no strength without unity
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And for any of you mainlanders who come over to our little country, you should invest in this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Peppers-Co ... 549&sr=8-1 so that you can understand our little sayings :angel
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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:I'm not bilingual.............................I only like women :chuckle :chuckle

Seriously though, I can see them trying to force multilingual on us over here (Irish I can sort of understand but Ulster Scots :shock: :shock: :crazy: )
Why do they have to wear a sheepskin coat inside out though?, and keep saying baa baa :whistle
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They should do away with regional languages it just costs money for bi-lingual road signs and lets face it what good is it? I mean do we see road signs in viking or roman latin? of course not.
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dvbuk55 wrote:They should do away with regional languages it just costs money for bi-lingual road signs and lets face it what good is it? I mean do we see road signs in viking or roman latin? of course not.
It is a bit like the German's saying you all speak not the same as us and we will kill all those who speak a different language too make us understand one another!. IE genocide it don't work let's live in peace with each other even if we don't understand them all at time's!.
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k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:They should do away with regional languages it just costs money for bi-lingual road signs and lets face it what good is it? I mean do we see road signs in viking or roman latin? of course not.
It is a bit like the German's saying you all speak not the same as us and we will kill all those who speak a different language too make us understand one another!. IE genocide it don't work let's live in peace with each other even if we don't understand them all at time's!.
Well said! :Applause

I also think that it's important to preserve languages. Why shouldn't the Welsh be allowed to speak Welsh?
If you were to go to Mainland Europe, you would be expected to speak the language of the Country you were in. So why shoulnd't it be compulsary for everyone providing a service in Wales to speak Welsh?
Not necessarily perfect Welsh, but good enough to answer Customer queries in Welsh. It's a matter of curtesy! :hmmmm
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andy2007 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:They should do away with regional languages it just costs money for bi-lingual road signs and lets face it what good is it? I mean do we see road signs in viking or roman latin? of course not.
It is a bit like the German's saying you all speak not the same as us and we will kill all those who speak a different language too make us understand one another!. IE genocide it don't work let's live in peace with each other even if we don't understand them all at time's!.
Well said! :Applause

I also think that it's important to preserve languages. Why shouldn't the Welsh be allowed to speak Welsh?
If you were to go to Mainland Europe, you would be expected to speak the language of the Country you were in. So why shoulnd't it be compulsary for everyone providing a service in Wales to speak Welsh?
Not necessarily perfect Welsh, but good enough to answer Customer queries in Welsh. It's a matter of curtesy! :hmmmm
No it's a matter of sycophancy, the language is dead and kept alive only to pander to fancy, it's like all these old buildings grade 1 and 2 listed and victorian chimneys - pull 'em down and stop wasting good money.
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If the Welsh language is so important why can't most Welsh people speak it ?
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the language is dead and kept alive only to pander to fancy,
Not so. Welsh might be dead (or at least, very poorly) in South Wales, but it's alive and kicking in North Wales.

They even 'welshify' english words. such as Rwgbi for Rugby, Criced for Cricket, bws for bus,
tacsi for taxi and even fecbwc for Facebook.
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Lounge Lizard wrote:If the Welsh language is so important why can't most Welsh people speak it ?
Let's face it, most English people can't speak English :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Or to quote Bruce Willis - I only speak two languages, English and bad English :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Thorby Bislam wrote:
the language is dead and kept alive only to pander to fancy,
Not so. Welsh might be dead (or at least, very poorly) in South Wales, but it's alive and kicking in North Wales.

They even 'welshify' english words. such as Rwgbi for Rugby, Criced for Cricket, bws for bus,
tacsi for taxi and even fecbwc for Facebook.
That's not "welshifying" it's making up words to suit the situation - the French threw a strop a few years ago over anglicised words and they too "frenchified" words because they thought it denigrated the french language - now that I can understand - but really tacsi - why not just say taxi? I mean what's welsh for "Hello Ewe - how about a date tonight"?
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