Mail still in frame next day after cut off!!

[Lenny honeyball]

Whats the procedure for this?.

I have ofter come into work the next day after a cut off, for my mail to still be in the frame for me to deliver!!

[DGP1]

It should be marked down as a failure by the manager but if you want a definate answer why don't you ask_allan@royalmail.com.

[bexhil palace]

My cut off was left in someones garden overnight in torrential rain.
How will chief alan answer that one?

[DGP1]

My cut off was left in someones garden overnight in torrential rain.
How will chief alan answer that one?

That would be an incident that IB might take interest in

[RTI]

thats nothing, weve had a whole walk left in the frame for 2 days. its a heavy walk as it is, so by the third day it was impossible to put anymore mail into the frame.
Funny because if you bring one letter back, they are on your case for willfull delay.

[Lenny honeyball]

thats nothing, weve had a whole walk left in the frame for 2 days. its a heavy walk as it is, so by the third day it was impossible to put anymore mail into the frame.
Funny because if you bring one letter back, they are on your case for willfull delay.

Made me laugh... for all the wrong reasons.

[Broxi51]

Your union rep should make a note of each incident of mail being left in the frame after a cut off.
This will then be used by him/her to make a case against any manager who tries to pursue a
willful delay against a postie. Works every time so far in our office

[krussel]

My rest day the other week and they could not cover my duty so our manager became a hero she took it out . When i got in next day i noticed a full dropbag of packets under the frame left from the previous day, inc 8 recordeds. Later when i cleared that days dropbag i found it half full of flats so in fact she had only taken out the LETTERS

[andy2007]

Whats the procedure for this?.

I have ofter come into work the next day after a cut off, for my mail to still be in the frame for me to deliver!!

I don't know the official answer. But as far as I'm concerned, it should be treated as Willful Delay. Have you asked your Rep to make an official complaint about this?

[DGP1]

My rest day the other week and they could not cover my duty so our manager became a hero she took it out . When i got in next day i noticed a full dropbag of packets under the frame left from the previous day, inc 8 recordeds. Later when i cleared that days dropbag i found it half full of flats so in fact she had only taken out the LETTERS

It's probably why they think that delivery is so easy, I know if I left the flats and the packets my duty would be easy everyday

[rhino49]

your lucky to have it in the frame our cut offs are left in the bags underneath the and we are given no extra time to sort it back up , so it has the knock on effect of another cut of the next day , of course the managers are sitting in the warm office all afternoon with very little to do express suprise that we struggle to get out and complete the next day

Are you sure about that, Tolkein? I mean, managers still there in the afternoon - now THAT is unusual !!!

[krussel]

Our managers (small office 0nly two) seem to be out the door asap. A few sat's ago i got bitten it broke skin but not too bad, but as i do not normally get back to the office till about 12.30pm on a sat i phoned in at 10.15am to report it to a manager. Guess what they had both left

[johnnyp]

Whats the procedure for this?.

I have ofter come into work the next day after a cut off, for my mail to still be in the frame for me to deliver!!

There should be no mail left in the office,if someones not going to finish or cuts off then management are supposed to find alternatives to get it delivered,example offer duty holder docket,if they dont want offer another postie docket,if they dont want bring in a casual,if they cant do that then deliver it themselves.Its a tricky one when its left in your frame though,because the first thing a manager is gonna look at is you absorbing it at no cost,i would ask for a bit of docket to clear it up,look whats there and do a deal,but be carefull if you finish before your time and come back to the office and your manager sees you then next time he may expect you to absorb if youve done it within your time.

[pickaname]

Whats the procedure for this?.

I have ofter come into work the next day after a cut off, for my mail to still be in the frame for me to deliver!!

They use this trick all the time in my office.

You tell em your cutting off and they say leave what you cant do in the frame, expecting you to do it the following day.

The next morning just tell your manager you will be cutting off due to yesterdays mail being left and ask him (or her) what he (or she, or heshe) wants you to do. And remember...

Never refuse reasonable requests.
Let your manager make the final decision.
Always work to your time and cut off what you cant do.

They cant force you to do overtime.

[Lenny honeyball]

I asked one of the line managers, what the procedure was, and his reply was "If we havent the resources to deliver it, It stays in the frame and we inform the relevant people (cant recall who excactly) regulator?? .

Yeah right.

Tis intresting to note, that managers in our office are well known to hide cut offs in their office, In case of auditor turning up and being 'caught' so to speak.

Tis also intresting that in our office when you do cut off, some managers says "leave the mail in the frame" and other managers say" take it out and bring it back" What the hell this is suppose to achieve I dont know., Just means we cut off even earlier near end of delivery to bring the excess back anyway.