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Questionably Employment Practicies
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Puppetmaster
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Questionably Employment Practicies
I find it hard to beleive a Company the size of RM and with a very stong Union together with tough employment laws can get away with so many Questionably practicies.
2 examples i know of,perhaps you know similar.
1 hour a week contracts,staff employed on 1 hour a week contract,working full week evey week but sick pay holiday only based on cotracted hours,also a number of staff on Saturday only contracts,again working full time but limited benefits .
2 examples i know of,perhaps you know similar.
1 hour a week contracts,staff employed on 1 hour a week contract,working full week evey week but sick pay holiday only based on cotracted hours,also a number of staff on Saturday only contracts,again working full time but limited benefits .
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dvbuk55
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
Aye - I can see the one flaw in your statement though.Puppetmaster wrote:I find it hard to beleive a Company the size of RM and with a very stong Union together with tough employment laws can get away with so many Questionably practicies.
2 examples i know of,perhaps you know similar.
1 hour a week contracts,staff employed on 1 hour a week contract,working full week evey week but sick pay holiday only based on cotracted hours,also a number of staff on Saturday only contracts,again working full time but limited benefits .
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rhino49
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
and it isn't in the spellingdvbuk55 wrote:Aye - I can see the one flaw in your statement though.Puppetmaster wrote:I find it hard to beleive a Company the size of RM and with a very stong Union together with tough employment laws can get away with so many Questionably practicies.
2 examples i know of,perhaps you know similar.
1 hour a week contracts,staff employed on 1 hour a week contract,working full week evey week but sick pay holiday only based on cotracted hours,also a number of staff on Saturday only contracts,again working full time but limited benefits .
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banner18
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
Anybody who takes on a job with a one hour contract is either crazy and deserves what they get or they want those contracted hours and should just work them. Rm only get away with it because people are willing to accept such crap. I wouldn't even go near a contract like that, unless it suited me. Remember, those people can basically take any time off they want, they only have to do one hour a week. Maybe it suits some people with their lifestyles etc...
The way to really protect your rights is to always only do your contracted hours. One hour contracts would be worthless to Rm then.
The way to really protect your rights is to always only do your contracted hours. One hour contracts would be worthless to Rm then.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
The problem being if you are offered work and are on JS but turn it down because you don't like the contract, you loose all of your benefits.banner18 wrote:Anybody who takes on a job with a one hour contract is either crazy and deserves what they get or they want those contracted hours and should just work them. Rm only get away with it because people are willing to accept such crap. I wouldn't even go near a contract like that, unless it suited me. Remember, those people can basically take any time off they want, they only have to do one hour a week. Maybe it suits some people with their lifestyles etc...
The way to really protect your rights is to always only do your contracted hours. One hour contracts would be worthless to Rm then.
Also even though it is a 1hr contract most people will accept it at the start because its better to work than not, this is what RM relies on. Once you have your shoe in the door though you can always keep pushing for better conditions I would.
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apple
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
1 hour contracts, this from a world renowned employer that says it values it's employees, i think it's an absolute disgrace and something that should not be allowed, i wonder if most people / MPs know about the dodgy management practices
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banner18
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't lose any benefits for refusing a job with a 1 hour contract. If so, then its simple, take the job, do only the one hour a week, and claim the rest from the government as tax credits.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
You are entitled to earn some money and still claim benefits so really we're looking at a benefits cheats charter. It also one of the tactics used by Walmart who are highly criticised in the US for paying low wages on sub standard contracts and people claiming benefits and health care from the state. Some states in America refuse to let them open stores.banner18 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't lose any benefits for refusing a job with a 1 hour contract. If so, then its simple, take the job, do only the one hour a week, and claim the rest from the government as tax credits.
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norbert
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
it is Walmart stuff , RM would say in their defence that people get p***ed about even more by Agencies and/or use the recession as a excusedvbuk55 wrote:You are entitled to earn some money and still claim benefits so really we're looking at a benefits cheats charter. It also one of the tactics used by Walmart who are highly criticised in the US for paying low wages on sub standard contracts and people claiming benefits and health care from the state. Some states in America refuse to let them open stores.banner18 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't lose any benefits for refusing a job with a 1 hour contract. If so, then its simple, take the job, do only the one hour a week, and claim the rest from the government as tax credits.
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
That's very true.banner18 wrote:Anybody who takes on a job with a one hour contract is either crazy and deserves what they get or they want those contracted hours and should just work them. Rm only get away with it because people are willing to accept such crap. I wouldn't even go near a contract like that, unless it suited me. Remember, those people can basically take any time off they want, they only have to do one hour a week. Maybe it suits some people with their lifestyles etc...
The way to really protect your rights is to always only do your contracted hours. One hour contracts would be worthless to Rm then.
Likewise I've heard more than enough moaning from those who applied for and accepted part time contracts ( 25 hours or whatever ), never apply for full time vacancies because they're all for 'difficult' walks and complain they're on less money than others every time thry're on holiday or off sick.
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ar26
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
What full time jobs, no one in our office has been made full time for at least 5 years, If a full timer retires or leaves it's a part timer who gets the shift, if they want OT then they can have it if not someone else has to box the duty in for them so it's ready ( readyish) to go when they start. But they have never offered a part timer a full time post it just vanishes, hence why the split which when they started usung part timers used to be 80% full time 20% part time is now around 50 -50.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
rhino49 wrote:and it isn't in the spellingdvbuk55 wrote:Aye - I can see the one flaw in your statement though.Puppetmaster wrote:I find it hard to beleive a Company the size of RM and with a very stong Union together with tough employment laws can get away with so many Questionably practicies.
2 examples i know of,perhaps you know similar.
1 hour a week contracts,staff employed on 1 hour a week contract,working full week evey week but sick pay holiday only based on cotracted hours,also a number of staff on Saturday only contracts,again working full time but limited benefits .
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Big Daz
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
dvbuk55 wrote:You are entitled to earn some money and still claim benefits so really we're looking at a benefits cheats charter. It also one of the tactics used by Walmart who are highly criticised in the US for paying low wages on sub standard contracts and people claiming benefits and health care from the state. Some states in America refuse to let them open stores.banner18 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't lose any benefits for refusing a job with a 1 hour contract. If so, then its simple, take the job, do only the one hour a week, and claim the rest from the government as tax credits.
So why would RML do that? Lets see now, Wallmart =Asda = :lfo = RML
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andy2007
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Re: Questionably Employment Practicies
No, you would loose Benefits for refusing a job, just because it doesn't offer enough hours.banner18 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't lose any benefits for refusing a job with a 1 hour contract. If so, then its simple, take the job, do only the one hour a week, and claim the rest from the government as tax credits.
It was bad enough, when I was unemployed in the '90's. But I hear that they're even worse for keeping tabs on you now. I lost track of the number of unsuitable jobs I had to apply for, to keep them off my back. And it only took me 7 Months to find a Job.
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