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andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:07

stevie247 wrote:I was just thinking that this could be done,no problem....If the van the 2 posties were in was a f***ing TARDIS.

Or maybe a DeLorien?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:26

Tman wrote:
just take a look around and see how stressed out the workers are in other industries.
That's a very telling statement there, Agent.

An outsider could be forgiven for thinking you've just confirmed the image of posties having had it too easy then?

Ah so your argument is that our terms and conditions should worsen to match non unionised work places. No thanks.

BTW calling axeman "agent" all the time cheapens the debate and IMHO weakens your arguments, as does any post that resorts to other forms of name calling and denigration. So everybody can we show respect to others opinions no matter how divergent they are from yours.

As Jackie Robinson says “I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.”

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:43

Ah so your argument is that our terms and conditions should worsen to match non unionised work places. No thanks.

Ah, so nothing at all. Who mentioned anything about non-unionised?

BTW calling axeman "agent" all the time cheapens the debate and IMHO weakens your arguments, as does any post that resorts to other forms of name calling and denigration. So everybody can we show respect to others opinions no matter how divergent they are from yours.

It's a little thing we have going; he calls me "teaman". No biggie, but I never noticed you saying too much about that though...

As Jackie Robinson says “I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.”

WTF's Jackie Robinson..?
I prefer the Good Lord's advice- "give, and ye shall receive"

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 20 Jan 2009, 15:41

Tman wrote:
Trueblueterrier wrote:Ah so your argument is that our terms and conditions should worsen to match non unionised work places. No thanks.
Ah, so nothing at all. Who mentioned anything about non-unionised?

You didn't but my logic which probably is flawed if you believe in market forces dictating wages then there is no place for the Union.

trueblueterrier wrote:BTW calling axeman "agent" all the time cheapens the debate and IMHO weakens your arguments, as does any post that resorts to other forms of name calling and denigration. So everybody can we show respect to others opinions no matter how divergent they are from yours.

Tman wrote:It's a little thing we have going; he calls me "teaman". No biggie, but I never noticed you saying too much about that though...

Yes and I let it ride for a while as I thought it would die a natural death. It hasn't so I posted what I did and its aimed at everybody not just you.

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:As Jackie Robinson says “I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.”

Tman wrote:WTF's Jackie Robinson..?
I prefer the Good Lord's advice- "give, and ye shall receive"

Thats a misquote I believe Acts 20:35

I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive

The Bible also says "Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

It also says "Show proper respect to everyone" 1 Peter 2:17

Jackie Robinson was a Baseball Player in the USA and was the first Black player to enter the Major League in 1947 .

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 20 Jan 2009, 15:49

Dismissive comments by 2 members removed - Please will everyone stop ignoring my posts. Is this an adult board or a playground. If I see any more from who ever it is they will receive a warning and a 24 hour ban.

People come on here to discuss and pass information it seems as though a few regulars think they can say whatever they want, well you can as long as its respectful and does not denigrate another member. Be funny, be forthright but don't be dismissive.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 20 Jan 2009, 17:15

I really think those in outside industries are't half as stressed as posties especialy the delivery posties.................... just to put the record a little straighter

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 20 Jan 2009, 17:38

axeman wrote:I really think those in outside industries are't half as stressed as posties especialy the delivery posties.................... just to put the record a little straighter

How many times have you walked into a business premises to find the people drinking coffee and talking and basically not getting very much done (usually one person trying to do all the work whilst the others just looking as if they are on a tea break (any time from 9-1)).

paulsmd · Post by **paulsmd** » 20 Jan 2009, 19:02

taxi4leighton wrote:royal mail want to ballot us on a 4hr 15mn delivery or a 3hr 30 mn one.i assume that both these would have the same amount of calls?. the difference being that the former would incorporate parcels and bulk calls and be done ,2 men sharing a van. and the latter would be delivery as at present?.could someone please clarify this point for me?.i would also be grateful for any feedback from anyone whose office has gone down this road.

We do this in Ipswich & all is ok.

darrybuncan · Post by **darrybuncan** » 20 Jan 2009, 20:35

paulsmd,can you tell us how it works?how long does the delivery take and any other revelant information.also how long has your office being doing it and how did your office manage to get it implemented as it is being blocked elsewhere by the cwu.

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 20 Jan 2009, 23:02

You didn't but my logic which probably is flawed if you believe in market forces dictating wages then there is no place for the Union.

Nothing to do with any of that either. Irrelevant though, as he's now posted a completely opposing view, presumably having realised his original error.

1 "just take a look around and see how stressed out the workers are in other industries"

Vs

2 "I really think those in outside industries are't half as stressed as posties especialy the delivery posties"

Obviously a firm believer in the Uriah Heep debating school ...

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 20 Jan 2009, 23:49

Not an error just a veiw twisted out of the contex it was writen by ...............

I'm................. very humble very heavy

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 21 Jan 2009, 09:02

Politicos use the old "taken out of context" excuse, but they don't get away with it either...

finbar · Post by **finbar** » 22 Jan 2009, 18:49

they must be desperate, work in same office as darren & darry buncan , our area rep came in on wednesday to explain the cwu position did not go down to well with some members of staff. our line manager had the look of a rabbit caught in the headlights then low & behold the area manager came in today spreading the i cant believe you are not accepting this speech, desperate or what? lets stick together & we will win the battle of not splitting up the cwu!

wolfie citizen smith · Post by **wolfie citizen smith** » 22 Jan 2009, 19:01

PAY & MODENISATION people, thats what you voted for, so put up with it

taxi4leighton · Post by **taxi4leighton** » 22 Jan 2009, 19:09

NO ONE HAS YET EXPLAINED WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 3H 30M DELIVERY AND THE 4H DELIVERY SPAN.APART FROM THE 45 MINS OBVIOUSLY..I GUESS THE TWO WOULD HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF DELIVERY POINTS.BUT THE FORMER WOULD BE DONE AS AT PRESENT, AND THE LATTER WITH 2 TO A VAN DOING PARCELS,BULK CALLS AND SPECIALS.COULD SOMEONE PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME.OR IS IT DIFFERENT FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE.

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