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Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
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islfor
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Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Today it was a very heavy day with loads of cut-offs, both managers went out delivering mail in their own cars with boxes of mail on the passenger seats. We have been briefed by both managers and union rep about keeping mail locked in the back of the van.
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!
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DGP1
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
If IB catches them then they'll receive the same punishment as the rest of us (dismissal in my office), you could always take a photo and e-mail it to IB if you are that way inclinedislfor wrote:Today it was a very heavy day with loads of cut-offs, both managers went out delivering mail in their own cars with boxes of mail on the passenger seats. We have been briefed by both managers and union rep about keeping mail locked in the back of the van.
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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brothermagrew
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
And a reminder of a previous LTB:islfor wrote:Today it was a very heavy day with loads of cut-offs, both managers went out delivering mail in their own cars with boxes of mail on the passenger seats. We have been briefed by both managers and union rep about keeping mail locked in the back of the van.
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!
Letter to Branches
No. 919/07
Ref: 300.26
Date: 15th October 2007
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleague
Use of Private Cars on Delivery By Managers
We have been made aware of advice that has been issued by Royal Mail which confirms that the insurance bond which is sometimes provided to CWU members who use their own cars on delivery is not applicable for managers who use their cars for such purposes, either during industrial action periods or at other times.
Therefore unless they have private business insurance to convey mail, they will be driving without insurance. We would suggest that if our members become aware of Managers operating in this way either while industrial action is taking place or otherwise, they should draw the attention of police to the likelihood that an offence is being committed so that they can take the necessary action to stop it.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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islfor
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Are they allowed to deliver mail in private cars ? On the front seat ?
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brothermagrew
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Would suggest for your queries that you go to the following link http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11918" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and if you have not already done so read in full. Private Cars on Delivery Frequently Asked Questions should provide your answers - try (questions 4 and 5).islfor wrote:Are they allowed to deliver mail in private cars ? On the front seat ?
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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shelanda
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Challenged this one myself told if permission given by DSM no problem

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norbert
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
could always tip the Police off - discretely via Crimestoppers with the insurance issue - there's traffic cops under a lot of pressure with all that New Labour Target Culturedisgruntledpostie1 wrote:If IB catches them then they'll receive the same punishment as the rest of us (dismissal in my office), you could always take a photo and e-mail it to IB if you are that way inclinedislfor wrote:Today it was a very heavy day with loads of cut-offs, both managers went out delivering mail in their own cars with boxes of mail on the passenger seats. We have been briefed by both managers and union rep about keeping mail locked in the back of the van.
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!.
MURDERERS. Need to dispose of a body? Simply parcel it up and post it to yourself via DHL. You will never see it again.
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edy
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
This happens every day in our office,one manager in particular loads up packets/letters all on view to Joe Public,then runs round like a blue arse fly !islfor wrote:Today it was a very heavy day with loads of cut-offs, both managers went out delivering mail in their own cars with boxes of mail on the passenger seats. We have been briefed by both managers and union rep about keeping mail locked in the back of the van.
What punishment if any, should they receive for negligence after WTL sessions on Mail Integrity which they themselves dont adhere too !!
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redgateman
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Well they would say that wouldn't theyshelanda wrote:Challenged this one myself told if permission given by DSM no problem![]()
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morleyposty
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
what are cut-offs?
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DGP1
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Mail that is undeliverable due to posties running out of time, ie. I had to cut off my delivery to be able to finish on time.mosaddler wrote:what are cut-offs?
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morleyposty
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
ahh ok.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Mail that is undeliverable due to posties running out of time, ie. I had to cut off my delivery to be able to finish on time.mosaddler wrote:what are cut-offs?
thus far i havent been given a cut-off time. during last week i done 4 different completed rounds and finisehed between 3-6pm.
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Pmn
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
Well if your contract is 9am-2pm then you can cut off at 2pm.mosaddler wrote:ahh ok.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Mail that is undeliverable due to posties running out of time, ie. I had to cut off my delivery to be able to finish on time.mosaddler wrote:what are cut-offs?
thus far i havent been given a cut-off time. during last week i done 4 different completed rounds and finisehed between 3-6pm.
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
or 1.20 if you,ve not taken your breaks.Pmn wrote:Well if your contract is 9am-2pm then you can cut off at 2pm.mosaddler wrote:ahh ok.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Mail that is undeliverable due to posties running out of time, ie. I had to cut off my delivery to be able to finish on time.mosaddler wrote:what are cut-offs?
thus far i havent been given a cut-off time. during last week i done 4 different completed rounds and finisehed between 3-6pm.
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NWpostie
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Re: Manager delivering cut-offs in own Car
All this ending of job and finish, working all the hours you are paid has bitten the Management in the arse
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