Who will not be doing Christmas overtime?

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:04

tolkien wrote:broke off today, on return manager told me that i am not working hard enough and should up my pace to get round so if i cant cope i should look for another job ,
it didnt matter that i was coping with a sat break off ,or waiting for bags to be dropped at my pouch drop i should have run to catch up so as not to break of.
somehow i dont think i will be doing overtime at christmas ,
looking forward to the season of goodwill

And they wonder why we won't do anything extra for them

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:10

Not a chance...Crozier and Leighton have forced me to cease all goodwill.

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:11

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
tolkien wrote:broke off today, on return manager told me that i am not working hard enough and should up my pace to get round so if i cant cope i should look for another job ,
it didnt matter that i was coping with a sat break off ,or waiting for bags to be dropped at my pouch drop i should have run to catch up so as not to break of.
somehow i dont think i will be doing overtime at christmas ,
looking forward to the season of goodwill

Ask your manager for a walk test and for him/her to go out with you.

bandit650 · Post by **bandit650** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:55

As you all know the decline in mail is only to clear to all of us and as i explained to the manager (I use that in a very loose manner) i did'nt think we needed to be asked about christmas O/T as the mail is not there,what we could see all around us was a figment of our imaginations,he started to become very annoyed i don't know why but i will not be doing anything to help out as they have treated us with so little respect, the black stick has been used one to many times in our office and after this weekend one manager was so rude to a young member of staff it was to much,so mine and alot of others goodwill has left the building just like Elvis.

Beefy_Curtains · Post by **Beefy_Curtains** » 01 Dec 2008, 20:02

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:There'll be no OT for me this Christmas The DOM is a complete arse and if I'm being really honest - I wouldn't pee on him if he was a urinal

I only wish everyone on my office would do the same but alas many of them still haven't learned but time will make them wise.

only wish everyone on my office would do the same but alas many of them still haven't learned but time will make them wise.[/

Oh so true. Some of us who have worked elswhere in recent years have seen whats a coming.Oh yes. The old seniors will regret being so stuborn and think the "I'll just leave then" will help them out. It wont cos all other jobs out there are far, far, far worse to work for.

This is what happens elswhere and soon to be at RM Watch this space you heard it here first.

No OT.
Must be flexible i.e free work.
No Penison etc stakeholders.
Targets that can only be met if you have a breakdown
Teamwork i.e demotivation
Monthy Ass sessments
Yearly ass sessments
Being compared with your colleagues. i.e if he can do it why cant you?
Meetings in your time
No Lunch breaks

shall i go on?

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 01 Dec 2008, 21:36

Beefy_Curtains wrote:
No OT.
Must be flexible i.e free work.
No Penison etc stakeholders.
Targets that can only be met if you have a breakdown
Teamwork i.e demotivation
Monthy Ass sessments
Yearly ass sessments
Being compared with your colleagues. i.e if he can do it why cant you?
Meetings in your time
No Lunch breaks

shall i go on?

This is why we pay for a union!!!

Post by **baldrick** » 01 Dec 2008, 21:46

I do Sunday OT, but haven't done Xmas SA or OT since the Way Forward, eight years ago.
I don't like the idea of doing OT anyway, but certainly not at a lesser hourly rate than normal hourly rate.

Beefy_Curtains · Post by **Beefy_Curtains** » 02 Dec 2008, 11:44

Phantom wrote:
Beefy_Curtains wrote:
No OT.
Must be flexible i.e free work.
No Penison etc stakeholders.
Targets that can only be met if you have a breakdown
Teamwork i.e demotivation
Monthy Ass sessments
Yearly ass sessments
Being compared with your colleagues. i.e if he can do it why cant you?
Meetings in your time
No Lunch breaks

shall i go on?
This is why we pay for a union!!!

I agree but what fool at the CWU agred a 4 day strike over Fri/Sat/Mon/Tue No wonder it collapsed. Some cannot live on fresh air. One day a week and a solid work to rule would have worked better.
How can anyone who earnt well out of job n finish swap it for £400 poxy quid and few shares that will suddenly be worthless in 2012 when its pay out time.

I am and will stay a member and went on strike every day but the CWU is weak IMO. A band aid will make it bettter more tha them! Wait till next years pay offer and see what they give into then!

Good Luck cos you will all need it! Book your GP "stress " appointments now!

dogfood · Post by **dogfood** » 02 Dec 2008, 14:26

what fool at the CWU agred a 4 day strike over Fri/Sat/Mon/Tue No wonder it collapsed. Some cannot live on fresh air. One day a week and a solid work to rule would have worked better.
How can anyone who earnt well out of job n finish swap it for £400 poxy quid and few shares that will suddenly be worthless in 2012 when its pay out time.

I am and will stay a member and went on strike every day but the CWU is weak IMO. A band aid will make it bettter more tha them! Wait till next years pay offer and see what they give into then!

Sadly Beefy you have hit the nail on the head.

Beefy_Curtains · Post by **Beefy_Curtains** » 02 Dec 2008, 18:54

dogfood wrote:
what fool at the CWU agred a 4 day strike over Fri/Sat/Mon/Tue No wonder it collapsed. Some cannot live on fresh air. One day a week and a solid work to rule would have worked better.
How can anyone who earnt well out of job n finish swap it for £400 poxy quid and few shares that will suddenly be worthless in 2012 when its pay out time.

I am and will stay a member and went on strike every day but the CWU is weak IMO. A band aid will make it bettter more tha them! Wait till next years pay offer and see what they give into then!
Sadly Beefy you have hit the nail on the head.

Thank you

My father ex FOC for SOGAT will be turning in his urn at todays apathy of some posties and The CWU poor leadership/guidance/arz licking!

When this country is back working 1930's style/conditions (very soon), then many will wish they were in a union and enjoy a good fight. If WW3 started tommorow and I got called up I would fear for my life fighting alongside some of the spineless posties that exist now. I would get fed up hearing "whats the point" "you wont change anything" "you wont win" "Just leave then" "stop moaning" "The grass is always greener" "I NEED THE MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
If these pathetic cretins were around in WW2, hitler and the Italian job would be now running the place, then they would be a whinging like they are now every morning in my DO Bloddy whinging about the changes that THEY Voted for! IDIOTS

Pete c · Post by **Pete c** » 03 Dec 2008, 18:19

I'm not gonna be doing any this year (first time in 17 years) my knees are f****d and my back is sore. Just going to leave the OT to the strike breakers who will do anything for a quick buck!!

Beefy_Curtains · Post by **Beefy_Curtains** » 03 Dec 2008, 18:38

Pete c wrote:I'm not gonna be doing any this year (first time in 17 years) my knees are f****d and my back is sore. Just going to leave the OT to the strike breakers who will do anything for a quick buck!!

We had a questionaire this morno asking if we want redundancy (gulp) Looks like we are doomed!
Will the last one to leave the UK please switch the light off?

not me · Post by **not me** » 03 Dec 2008, 21:37

starting to get managerial pressure to get people on the pressure OT
told the guys today that nobody will get to work their day off over xmas

steviemac · Post by **steviemac** » 03 Dec 2008, 21:57

bring back 0500 kickoff and maybe have time for docket , not delivering when kids coming home from school if sticking to official duty times

I-POSTIE · Post by **I-POSTIE** » 03 Dec 2008, 22:03

I have not heard a thing about my Christmas arrangements yet despite it already being this close to Christmas. Maybe where I am there is not going to be any. My unit is way over budget despite all the cuts that have been made. The working system implemented has been a complete disaster and the unit is in a complete shambles. Delivery staff are worn out, injured and daily angry about what has transpired. The new manager who has been brought in to deal with the mess is openly hostile to delivery staff and there is a growing resentment towards doing any Christmas pressure anyhow. I think many will turn it down this year. I certainly will. It has been a bad year. Crozier and Leighton have told us they only want their people to work their scheduled hours and that is all they are getting from me for the first time in 20+ year of Christmas's. Humbug to them both! If it all goes to pot this year they deserve it.